Eric Newhill
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Listening to this again, I catch Steven falling into Alex's unhinged CT thinking. That whole bit about military connections to various cults.
Sheesh. There used to be a draft. Pretty much everyone used to serve in the military. Also, there was WW2, Korea and VN which accelerated the draft. Correlation is not causation.
I'd be surprised if people with military connections weren't involved in cults. That would be statistically weird given how many served.
This is classic CTist "thinking". Keep that which confirms the CT and disregards a huge body of evidence that does not confirm it. Like, what of all of the cults formed prior to the US military? The history of the world is all about cults. Fucking Mohammed comes back into town saying he talked to allah in a cave and, a few years later, millions of adherents are killing each other over interpretations of the "prophet's" words and "infidels" because they don't believe. Was the CIA behind that? Joseph Smith goes into the woods and talks to a salamander and the mormon church is born. CIA involvement?
For chrissakes, people are stupid. They are followers. They require organization into a system. They want that; nay crave it. No one can process and make sense of this existence. It's too big. Way too big. Cultism is not being imposed from external. Everything is a "cult" and has been since day one. The CIA, military intelligence or whatever boogeyman you want to envision is not necessary to get people involved in any of that. It's almost like CTists are ignorant of, or deliberately ignore, history and anthropology. Then again, CTism is cult - just as is any organized belief system (including 'science"). It's all picking and choosing elements of infinity to focus on in order to create a system that keeps one from going mad and, hopefully, when talking about this material realm of consciousness, that brings physical security (in non-physical realms there are also "cults"). Then people forget that they have arbitrarily chosen and they get all serious thinking that they are objectively correct.
My primary objection to CTs is that they erode society and society is necessary to provide for our physical needs. It's fine to sit around organizing an alternate reality and a belief system from infinite possibilities, but, in the physical, sooner or later someone has to get up and get some food stuff together and cook dinner, you know.
Sheesh. There used to be a draft. Pretty much everyone used to serve in the military. Also, there was WW2, Korea and VN which accelerated the draft. Correlation is not causation.
I'd be surprised if people with military connections weren't involved in cults. That would be statistically weird given how many served.
This is classic CTist "thinking". Keep that which confirms the CT and disregards a huge body of evidence that does not confirm it. Like, what of all of the cults formed prior to the US military? The history of the world is all about cults. Fucking Mohammed comes back into town saying he talked to allah in a cave and, a few years later, millions of adherents are killing each other over interpretations of the "prophet's" words and "infidels" because they don't believe. Was the CIA behind that? Joseph Smith goes into the woods and talks to a salamander and the mormon church is born. CIA involvement?
For chrissakes, people are stupid. They are followers. They require organization into a system. They want that; nay crave it. No one can process and make sense of this existence. It's too big. Way too big. Cultism is not being imposed from external. Everything is a "cult" and has been since day one. The CIA, military intelligence or whatever boogeyman you want to envision is not necessary to get people involved in any of that. It's almost like CTists are ignorant of, or deliberately ignore, history and anthropology. Then again, CTism is cult - just as is any organized belief system (including 'science"). It's all picking and choosing elements of infinity to focus on in order to create a system that keeps one from going mad and, hopefully, when talking about this material realm of consciousness, that brings physical security (in non-physical realms there are also "cults"). Then people forget that they have arbitrarily chosen and they get all serious thinking that they are objectively correct.
My primary objection to CTs is that they erode society and society is necessary to provide for our physical needs. It's fine to sit around organizing an alternate reality and a belief system from infinite possibilities, but, in the physical, sooner or later someone has to get up and get some food stuff together and cook dinner, you know.
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