Gravitational Waves Detected?

Short video by Brian Greene explaining significance: will open up new ways of learning about the universe.

So the wavelength is a fraction of atomic diameter?

I wonder what the difference in statistical significance is between the results from these interferometers and Radin's meditation experiments with interferometers.
 
Wasn't this a huge controversy awhile back, where they thought they discovered these waves but it was dust on the equipment?
 
My daughter played the sound it makes for me on her iphone. LOL. She was like, "That's what it sounds like!." My daughters have a hard time understanding how someone who spends so much time thinking about the paranormal also is so skeptical of scientific announcements like this.
 
Interesting. In Pam Reynolds Art Bell interview she talked about seeing (she saw it her NDE) a breakthrough in "space time continuum" (whatever that is). Would any of the members on here who know something about astrophysics think there could be a connection ? Or am I talking bollocks
 
Interesting. In Pam Reynolds Art Bell interview she talked about seeing (she saw it her NDE) a breakthrough in "space time continuum" (whatever that is). Would any of the members on here who know something about astrophysics think there could be a connection ? Or am I talking bollocks
Jeez, Tim. Maybe ONE post that didn't mention Pam R?
 
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My daughter played the sound it makes for me on her iphone. LOL. She was like, "That's what it sounds like!." My daughters have a hard time understanding how someone who spends so much time thinking about the paranormal also is so skeptical of scientific announcements like this.

Hearing is believing!

 
Isn't that obvious?
From your posts? Not really.
You said "Wasn't this a huge controversy awhile back, where they thought they discovered these waves but it was dust on the equipment?"
As far as I understand, bicep 2 tries to detect remanents from gravitational waves by measuring polarization in the microwave background radiation.
BTW the dust was not on any equipment, it was interstellar dust they were talking about.

Ligo, on the other hand detects passing gravitational waves directly by measuring the actual deformation of the space time fabric.

My point is a bit of suspicion isn't unwarranted?
Yes, of course, but not because of bicep2, apples and oranges.
The bicep story is not controversial, I believe that in the end all researchers agreed that there was no detection of gravitational waves, basically science at work.
 
From your posts? Not really.
You said "Wasn't this a huge controversy awhile back, where they thought they discovered these waves but it was dust on the equipment?"
As far as I understand, bicep 2 tries to detect remanents from gravitational waves by measuring polarization in the microwave background radiation.
BTW the dust was not on any equipment, it was interstellar dust they were talking about.

Ligo, on the other hand detects passing gravitational waves directly by measuring the actual deformation of the space time fabric.

Yes, of course, but not because of bicep2, apples and oranges.
The bicep story is not controversial, I believe that in the end all researchers agreed that there was no detection of gravitational waves, basically science at work.

The point would be there seems to a rush to announce scientific "certainties".

So I think my reasoning is sound that one can take this sort of thing with a grain of salt by looking at the embarrassment of BICEP2.
 
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The point would be there seems to a rush to announce scientific "certainties".

So I think my reasoning is sound that one can take this sort of thing with a grain of salt by looking at the embarrassment of BICEP2.
I disagree, what happened with bicep2 probably made the LIGO researchers extra careful.
From Science :
For 5 months, LIGO physicists struggled to keep a lid on their pupating discovery. Ordinarily, most team members would not have known whether the signal was real. LIGO regularly salts its data readings with secret false signals called “blind injections” to test the equipment and keep researchers on their toes. But on 14 September 2015, that blind injection system was not running. Physicists had only recently completed a 5-year, $205 million upgrade of the machines, and several systems—including the injection system—were still offline as the team wound up a preliminary “engineering run.” As a result, the whole collaboration knew that the observation was likely real. “I was convinced that day,” González says.
 
The point would be there seems to a rush to announce scientific "certainties".

So I think my reasoning is sound that one can take this sort of thing with a grain of salt by looking at the embarrassment of BICEP2.

Nope, I don't think so, in this case it's looking pretty good. I'm finding it utterly amazing to hear those distortions of space-time, and I think we're about to start finding out a lot of new and interesting stuff as we get a few more of these detectors.
 
So the wavelength is a fraction of atomic diameter?

I wonder what the difference in statistical significance is between the results from these interferometers and Radin's meditation experiments with interferometers.

I've been thinking about Radin's work in relation to this too... LIGO has had to build these huge devices, and go to all this trouble to isolate it's equipment, and they are still just measuring in the 'classic' space-time domain... You'd have to go many orders of magnitude smaller to do summat similar at a quantum level, and frankly it seems impossible. Radin's experiments look a bit basic in comparison... :eek: indeed I'm gonna be much harsher... and say I believe his experiments are trivial and meaningless PR for the IONS business.
 
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