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  1. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Farewell folks. Now Skeptiko has become a platform for stupid and dangerous conspiracy theories I am off to find a more sensible community. To those of you enduring Covid 19 in communities ravaged by assign politics and white-anted by shithead conspiracy my heart goes out to you and I hope you...
  2. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    You are misreading me. Pointing out dissenting views is fine so long as there is good purpose to doing so. At present experts are dissenting in what seems to be an atmosphere of general collective desire for truth. Generally speaking a lay audience will not grasp the finer points of argument, so...
  3. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I am not so much quoting my brother as relaying information I think might be helpful - and he happens to write it. He just happens to know what he's talking about.
  4. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    From my bro - in some haste so forgive any errors do you want me to do anything with it? I’m utterly blown away by the cleverness of these critters. Like we said earlier about reptilians etc, there doesn’t need to be the extra thing to make them more fearsome or amazing. They already have it...
  5. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Sam, if I am partisan in any way these days, it is between the authentic and the bullshit. For the past 2 years I have read in American politics, and it is apparent that your community has become polarised - with utter idiots on the left and the right - and both are doing profound damage. For me...
  6. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Sure. Its one thing to be anxious in a crisis and another to make a public record of ill-informed and critical comments of people actually doing a damned difficult job under horrendous circumstances. Here in NSW people in my circle of friends and associated are talking up idiot government...
  7. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I did mean ventilator. As I said, I can't comment on the technical. I would not be surprised that understanding of responses is evolving. It is apparent from the commentary I have listened to that medical staff are doing the usual thing of assessing what they are doing and melding research with...
  8. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I think with all the grim stuff around even bad dancing would lift spirits. There is no doubt that Covid 19 is having a catastrophic downstream impact on health services. They are not designed to cater to the level and type of demand placed on them. It's a case of 'damned if you do and damned...
  9. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    The problem with your proposition that you are abdicating any moral responsibility at an individual level. The US government is multi layered, so if you are referring to Trump et al you best say so, because the US government includes the House of Reps, and the Senate. And then there are the...
  10. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Hi David I rely on my brother who pulled out of a scientific PhD and hasn't been able to get back to study because of a mysterious illness he's been struggling to have diagnosed for over 5 years. He has a particular passion for virology, which he now indulges in at his enforced leisure. I have...
  11. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I think there should be a convention of courtesy when we post POVs that radically challenge norms - employing language that reflects an expression of an offering for consideration, rather than what comes across as a confident assertion. I'd like to see the source at least mentioned as well. I...
  12. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    News always has a 'bend' to it because perfect objectivity is impossible. If we are looking for something vaguely resembling truth, we have to be careful the source we rely does not bend interpretation outside an imaginary zone of okay distortion. I mentioned NPR mostly as a 'corrective' against...
  13. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Hey LS I am not being snarky. I just don't think that making claims in an authoritative tone without references to allow others to check your sources is okay. You leave the reader with the option of accepting what you say or rejecting it on the basis of what you have said alone - and that's not...
  14. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Okay LS You want to substantiate your claims with some sources? You have just made a bunch of claims with no substantiation at all. I have to frankly say that positing what seems to be some freaky conspiracy theory with no attribution of sources is at best, and in the kindest spirit, reckless...
  15. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Come on Atlantis You have news shows, news commentary shows and opinion shows. Maddow does commentary and analysis. If you want 'just the facts' watch a different show. However if you watch Carlson it is evident that you want commentary that suits your preferences. I don't know anything about...
  16. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Indeed indeed mate. The impact on health systems because of Covid 19 cases is dire. I spent several months on a respirator because of GBS and was given a standing ovation by the ICU staff as I was wheeled out - still pretty useless but breathing on my own at last. I was told I was accorded that...
  17. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    But Sam, that's from Fox News, now known as Trump TV. There is no way the Trump Administration wants to see high numbers. As it is Trump has been projecting numbers beyond serious modellng and setting the argument that if the numbers are not that high then he's done a good job. That's a set up...
  18. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Okay Sam, you have way more faith in your president than I do. Forming a council is one thing. Who will be on it is another. That then leads to the question as to whether this council would be competent to serve in the public interest. I hope for your sake your faith is not misplaced.
  19. Michael Patterson

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Ahh yes, what is the actual death rate? The only figures published are those where the cause of death is certified as Covid 19 - and its not like there are the resources to expend on autopsies. Only after can there be an assessment of the difference between the normal death rate and the Covid 19...
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