Here's something else I wanted to add to this thread.
I looked for the documentary where Will Bueche says Jacobs first made a similar comment about Mack's last years, and found it. I'm posting it here and I'm
recommending everyone genuinely interested in this topic to view it, because it so informative and covers all of the the questions we're looking into here, and in this field generally, so well. It's a bonus film (2h24) added to the main doc "UFOs: The Secret History" (2009) by David Cherniak called "Contact Has Begun". All it is is interviews with the following people, structured around different themes: Jacobs, Hopkins, Will Bueche, Janet Colli and other serious UFO researchers coming from different angles (some skeptical in various ways): Jerome Clark, Ann Druffel, psychologists Steven Lynn, Stuart Appelle & Albert Harrison, folklorist Thomas Bullard, physicist-sociologist Mark Rodeghier + abductee Travis Walton. This is
must-viewing.
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Secret-History-Jerome-Clark/dp/B0044LYRLO
(This sounds like an all-around definitive UFO dvd, btw. Paul Kimball:
The single best historical documentary about the UFO phenomenon.)
Here's a breakdown of it with some points I want to bring attention to. Jacobs and Hopkins are very prominent in the first half of the doc, less so in the last.
1.
Historical perspectives.
2.
Budd Hopkins. (21 min). These first two sections are great introductions to the history of the field.
3.
The Roper Poll. (29 min). Good discussion about the research on the frequency of abductions.
4.
John Mack. (39 min). Here's where (at 53:47) Jacobs makes his comment about Mack dropping PEER. Will Bueche is very present here.
5.
David Jacobs. (54 min). Jacobs' specific hybrid-breeding & integration program "findings".
6.
Evidence and methodology. (1h10).
7.
Psychological perspectives. (1h22). Includes skeptical points (fantasy proneness, sleep paralysis, the question of hypnosis) and good answers to them (especially Stuart Appelle: a lot of abductions don't take place in bed, etc.).
8.
Alternative reality perspectives. (1h45) Includes discussion of the imaginal realm (non-psychological, non-physical perspective). Enjoyable to watch Jacobs get challenged on his Realist stance by the interviewer.
9.
An experiencer's thoughts. (2h04) The experiencer is Will Bueche.
This last part I found really interesting and surprising because Bueche recounts how through his experiences (one through meditation) it was confirmed to him by the aliens that they are involved in a reproductive, hybrid-breeding program. As I'm listening to this, I'm saying to myself, "Hey, this is what Jacobs is saying!" and I was pleased when at 2h18 the interviewer brought this to his attention. (Bueche says he "leafed through"
The Threat but didn't read it.)
Also, it's interesting to hear Bueche, through his last experience with the aliens, describe it as an event where it was shown to him, purposively by the aliens so that he wouldn't doubt it, that this is a real, physical event - the beings, whatever they are, have a physical reality. He also doesn't like the word "interdimensional" and dismisses the whole "Jungian thing". So here's an important Mack follower/collaborator confirming the realist perspective, and specifically the hybrid-breeding, potential human society integration program that Jacobs is talking about.
Of course, the difference is that for Bueche the hybrid-breeding "program" is a positive event and not "an invasion". And here's one point of contention I have with Jacobs in his book because in his concluding chapters he quotes many of his abductees just stating pretty much the same facts that Bueche and other Positives are saying (they are given images of the earth in trouble, they are told some sort of transformative event will occur soon through hybridization and perhaps integration with human society). The problem is Jacobs concludes it's all deception and in the aliens' interest (not ours) when, in fact, as I'm reading closely, his abductee patients are not always painting a bleak picture (he does quote some who don't believe or trust what the aliens are telling them about their intentions). (To be fair, Jacobs isn't saying he's sure, he's saying it
could be for the good of humanity - he just doesn't like how it sounds, and finds there's no evidence to believe it will be a positive thing for humans.)
Why are the aliens breeding with humans? If I'm understanding him correctly, Bueche says the way he interprets the clues he's gotten, the beings may have inadvertently destroyed their planet and want to create a generation that's more in tune with spirit, and maybe need humans and their connection to spirituality (our empathy, etc.) to achieve that goal. In
The Threat, Jacobs points to some abductee accounts and the notions that the grays were themselves the result of early hybridization experiments from a higher species (possibly the insect-like aliens who are always seen by the abductees to be on board the crafts with them, and probably with humans) that were imperfect and led the grays to not be able to reproduce anymore. Because we can reproduce, the grays can reproduce through us. (p. 130)
(This post of mine should not be taken to imply that I accept this hybrid-breeding program is a reality. I am agnostic, but curious, and find no evidence to dismiss out-of-hand the realist perspective in general or the possibility of such a specific program.)