That is very apt, because atoms and molecules exist because the wave function forms a standing wave structure - much as happens in organ pipes, or in your GIF. This in turn is the only reason why chemicals have discrete properties - otherwise they would be like mountains (say) - every one would be different.
In this regard I am critical of all Abrahamic religions in particular (it is not 'phobic' - to be critical of people's evil work)
I agree with all you say about the Democrats, we just disagree on Trump. He lies constantly, that’s one of the reasons he’s in power. I’m sure he won a lot of votes on his seemingly ‘anti-war’ foreign policy stance. As Meurs said, his actions are far from his words.
Based on reports by NDErs, what evidential mediums have said, and my own experiences communicating with spirits, I believe there are different areas of the afterlife and after death people go to areas where they will be with like minded people. This happens through a process that is more like a natural law such as gravity, than by a law where you are judged by someone else. People who like harming others have their areas and those areas are not pleasant to be in. Eventually those people get a clue and figure out there is a better way to be and they get help to raise their level. So there are hellish regions but no one is condemned to spend an eternity in them.
People may visit these areas during NDEs in order to come back and tell the rest of us about them or because they will benefit from a glimpse of what is in store for them if they continue on their current path.
What is it like in the aftelife?
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I am not one to throw cold water on political discussions but can I respectfully suggest that they should be better redirected to private conversations? Count me in if there is one - especially Trump related.
Sorry Steve. It wasn't personal. Yours was the last one I saw and I get concerned when politics comes into the forum and said so. It was not a criticism of you in any way. I felt your passion and was sympathetic - and knew if I yielded to temptation I'd be doing exactly what I was concerned about.Can I ‘respectfully’ ask why you picked on me posting ‘political discussions’ when I was far from the only one to post about them? I didn’t introduce the topic, I responded to others posts.
Sorry Steve. It wasn't personal. Yours was the last one I saw and I get concerned when politics comes into the forum and said so. It was not a criticism of you in any way. I felt your passion and was sympathetic - and knew if I yielded to temptation I'd be doing exactly what I was concerned about.
This is a far deeper theme than I can convey here. The very origin of Christianity tells of an expulsion from Eden for the commission of a sin of wanting to know. That expulsion could be seen as a trauma - a kind of 'birth' into the world of matter. Traditional cultures have ceremonies to mark the transition from childhood to adulthood that can be deeply painful and even deeply dangerous.
The transition from innocence to the next state seems always to be a journey through pain, of breaking away from what we were to become what we will be. The image of Jesus on the cross is actually an initiatory shamanic image that is hinted at, but never explicitly explored by Christianity - which would not want anyone to think it is rooted in a shamanic tradition.
In Buddhism we find the ideas of release from suffering and desire through deep personal disciplines that can test resolve. In Christianity and elsewhere there are references to the 'dark night of the soul' - a period of existential trauma. In love we know of 'heartbreak'.
The very nature of physical existence embodies profound challenges in which 'breaking' or 'going mad' are acknowledged risks - and this is especially so in religious and military senses (especially when combined) where character is tested to the extreme.
I think the same applies to a gentler degree in ordinary lives, when people have their faith tested, or simply their ability to endure and survive shocking life circumstances. For example psychological trauma generated by physical, emotional and sexual abuse of children will, break some and send them mad, while others endure damaged and yet others live decent enough lives.
If we assent to these trials (and I do not believe all do) we must assume there is a loving wisdom behind it all - and if not that, what? Jesus exhorted his disciples to endure suffering for 'his sake'. Why would the embodiment of Love suggest such a thing?
I am not suggesting the above is an answer - just an indication of the complexity and difficulty of the ideas.
I find that troubling. There is widespread censoring going on in the social media, but no one wants to talk about it. The same few people talk, but the message isn’t getting through. Talk about playing while the titanic sinks! Perhaps that is why Alex wants to steer clear of that controversy. I can’t really blame him.
I agree that the Alex Jones things is a worry - but he was mad as a cut snake - and I have a real issue with people peddling lunatic conspiracy theories.I don’t like the banning up of all the platforms and banning Alex Jones for example, although I’m no fan of his, I think it’s the slippery slope. I see some of my friends cheering that sort of thing on, and shake my head at their naivety.
A couple of friends had a baby a few months ago and just found out that it has a very serious genetic disease. It will become increasingly difficult for it to have a normal life, including to eat and to breathe (so he will need medical interventions and support for everything), and its life expectancy is only about 2 years. Now, if there really is a "mastermind" behind the physical world, this means that it has designed it so as to make it possible to happen (and unfortunately I could have made gazillions of similar examples - it is most often "nature itself" that causes pain and suffering, and such suffering is most definitely not caused by the evil actions of human beings, or "all in our mind"), I cannot and will not rejoice about the "mysterious and perfect ways" of whatever has given rise to this material dimension where these and even worse things happen on a daily basis (is it metaphysical but still 'blind' forces/archetypes, like numbers or geometrical patterns? the incomprehensible Ein Sof of Khabbalists? Strings "vibrating" (and whence comes such "vibration") ? A god? Many gods? I have no idea, and this is not the point. The point is the nature of such Source, ie: what it is doing with us).
I sense part of what you feel is that absence of harmony between sacrifice and gratitude that was evident before the immoral abundance that flows over us. I am no longer a Christian but I have respect for the essential Christian theme of striving to bring love into this realm of suffering and sacrifice. Conscious loving awareness is fundamental to being a decent human being.
I want to observe that it has been the mission of what we call civilisation to escape realm of sacrifice and suffering. But in so doing we have removed our spirits from empathy for, and harmony with, the lives that continue to suffer and be sacrificed for our benefit. Instead of elevating our spirits we have become psychopathic.
That is, I think, the source of deep angst so many feel. We are struggling to recover what we know in our souls to be the right way to live. This is the only way I can answer you.
We try to eliminate fear from our lives and yet create it. There's got be a reason for that.I want to observe that it has been the mission of what we call civilisation to escape realm of sacrifice and suffering. But in so doing we have removed our spirits from empathy for, and harmony with, the lives that continue to suffer and be sacrificed for our benefit. Instead of elevating our spirits we have become psychopathic.
That is, I think, the source of deep angst so many feel. We are struggling to recover what we know in our souls to be the right way to live.
I think that the forum has boundaries in terms of what themes are suited to open discussion and what might necessarily be taken off line to a private conversation. Politics is one area I think should be limited to contextual reference on the forum - because it evokes passion and disputes that are not resolved readily in this forum format. I am not saying don't mention politics - just know the boundaries - and if you want to continue a discussion to a more detailed degree - sidebar it - as this forum makes readily available. This isn't censorship - just smart management of self and conversations. Its exactly how we behave in the 'real world' if we have friends and intimates.
Hello Pam, I suspect we self talk our material experience, and in so doing we edit out things that do not appear to conform to linear logic. Now and then I find myself in the process of contradicting an intuition on the grounds that it violates a 'rational' explanation of how things should be or go. So I think that this reflexive edit function also applies to memory as well.
However I think also that we can cultivate a habit of mind that acknowledges and accommodates those 'odd' things - partially by affirming that they are properly part of one's life.
I am interested that you used the term "how difficult it is to just explain away many of them". Why would you want to do that? Coming up with what may seem to be plausible 'explanations' is not meaningful if the theories are wrong - and even so, its more often a case of saying such and such is "just" this or that - as if we are comforted by the proposition that what just happened is nothing of interest - look away - there's nothing going on here folks.
The woo stuff seems to seep through where it can - when the self talk has eased off, or when the clangorous of intellectualising has momentarily stilled - and then it all seems so anomalous, begging to be forgotten or explained away.
I am one of the many who are plagued by 11:11 - albeit in frequent bursts followed by periods of respite. I might, for example, catch 11:11 on a clock for days in a row triggered by a sudden impulse to break from what I am doing to grab my phone or look at a clock. But then I'd also run into a bunch of 11:11 time stamps over a few days as well. I used to keep records on instances on my phone, but after several months doing so seeming to be pointless. The list was getting so long.
This 11:11 thing seems to be pretty common, and other people get different number or letter combos. You can 'explain' some of these away as just 'co-incidences', but not, I think, the barrage that comes daily for ages. Its more like some agency is having a game. Last year, when I was keeping records, I was intently writing (work related) and did not want to stop - and then I had a sudden pang of anxiety about needing to know the time - which wasn't true - I didn't, and I knew I didn't. But I grabbed my phone as if I had no control over my hand. I had to see it was 11:11 and I had only 60 seconds to do so and time was awasting - that was the urgency - and it wasn't coming from me.
Earlier this year I was taking an unusually late train from Katoomba into Sydney and I was sitting on the platform way too early to catch the 11:38. Its not unusual for me to arrive with 10 mins to spare, and never 30 mins or so. But here I was, for reasons not recalled, sitting on the platform quite happily listening to a podcast, knowing full well I was way early. Suddenly I had to look at the time -and not my phone clock, which is usual. but the platform clock which was showing 11:11:11. No idea why the platform clock has to show seconds - the timetables are not that precise. The game showed me a subtle side.
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Well I don't agree - at least not completely. His position was very weak for a long time, and he could have strengthened his position in Syria no end by sending in troops to do something or other. All he really did was burn off some cruise missiles in a way that didn't escalate thing at all. I think he knew what President Obama probably also realised - that those gas attacks were phony - whatever was done was done by the opponents of Assad.Did you really read my post? :)
I agree with all you say about the Democrats, we just disagree on Trump. He lies constantly, that’s one of the reasons he’s in power. I’m sure he won a lot of votes on his seemingly ‘anti-war’ foreign policy stance. As Meurs said, his actions are far from his words.
Yes, I really wish Alex would reopen one of those other forums for political discussions.Lol. I was just dropping in to see how the NDE discussion was going..