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by Alex Tsakiris | Dec 14 | Skepticism, Spirituality
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David Whitehead seeks to understand the origins of the “medical industrial complex.”
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When my wife worked in IT in a hospital she had to have a list of all the doctors names on staff there because they would get pissy if they were not properly addressed, so she put a list of doctors on her wall with this picture... the tyrannical quacks... lol

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Great discussion. David is a cool guy. Lots of common sense from both David and Alex.

IMO, there is always going to be a tension between the drive toward "community" and government versus individual freedoms and freedom of thought versus evil. Like David said, there has to be a balance.

What I see these days is that people we call "liberals", "socialists", "progressives" desperately want cohesive communities and government to run things. It's like they can't conceive or accept that every time you surrender your power to someone else, evil will see the opportunity and creeps in. But you guys addressed that. Good job. It's a human conundrum.

Beware of falling into cults (= thought and belief systems that are closed off to alternatives). Wearing the mask is a sign of cult membership to some (including me) and a sign of being a virtuous member of a community to others, but doesn't a community like that = cult? How can it not?

Conspiracy theorists are also cult members (The CT cult). Debunkers are cult members.

David is right about where tech is heading. It's not a CT. That has been in the works for years. Spying and control is - and has been - the goal of the US govt with this (like the Chinese). 5G will enable it all by leaps and bounds because of the increased power/bandwidth.

Don't follow leaders and watch the parking meters.
 
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Question at the end: What do we think about "Evil Forces" co-opting secret societies or the letters between Masons in the 1700's warning of such?

I try to put myself in the shoes of some top dog 40 year veteran at CIA who has orchestrated countless coups or perhaps a grand inquisitor or chief magician to the king... how do we move the pieces around on the board? We have a lot of fancy tools but a lot of it still comes down to using small teams of people to accomplish things in secret. To our top spook, a cohesive group or an organization composed of small cohesive groups of intelligent knowledgeable people who meet together in secrecy represents an enormous power potential ...and also a threat if not co-opted. So if I were the CIA man, I would be an expert in what brings people together around a goal and whether its Freemasonry or Boy Scouts or a local city council... I would be interested in all of these types of groups and how to bind them together around goals that I can influence or if their aims are contrary to mine, how to create dissention and disband them.

I think the roots of good and evil and the fundamental essence of being are all present when we make block towers with our 2 year old boy: two wills at times in conflict, at times in cooperation, the pleasure of creation, a fleeting moment of admiration for the structure that was built before the pleasure of destruction, then repeat.

Good is generally getting your desires and goals met.
Bad is generally the opposite.
Evil is "bad" but with a more complex relationship with the future where weights and values are applied based on potential, and it is also related to a prey's perspective on the predator, and it is also related to the desire that others feel what you feel. If you feel good you want to share it with others. Sometimes if people are wounded (think Scar from lion king or Joker from Batman) they want to make others feel the pain they feel too.

Your soul is a structure too and there is a grinning little boy out there that wants to smush it purely for the pleasure of seeing your building blocks scattered around the universe. There is also an overbearing parent out there that wants your soul to be locked into its version of perfection for eternity and wants to perfectly define your identity and know everything about you and make you behave according to its goals and this is just another form of destruction through the breaking of your Will.

Your resistance to these malicious spirits that want to destroy you is the engine of creation and partly what makes you greater. So while you're in it, Evil is EVIL, but stepping back, it is an ingredient to the building of something new and serves a purpose. That said... don't you pedos out there dare touch my kids or I'll give you a painful end! ...and then I'll hunt down YOUR soul and scatter its blocks across the universe...
 
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Question at the end: What do we think about "Evil Forces" co-opting secret societies or the letters between Masons in the 1700's warning of such?

I try to put myself in the shoes of some top dog 40 year veteran at CIA who has orchestrated countless coups or perhaps a grand inquisitor or chief magician to the king... how do we move the pieces around on the board? We have a lot of fancy tools but a lot of it still comes down to using small teams of people to accomplish things in secret. To our top spook, a cohesive group or an organization composed of small cohesive groups of intelligent knowledgeable people who meet together in secrecy represents an enormous power potential ...and also a threat if not co-opted. So if I were the CIA man, I would be an expert in what brings people together around a goal and whether its Freemasonry or Boy Scouts or a local city council... I would be interested in all of these types of groups and how to bind them together around goals that I can influence or if their aims are contrary to mine, how to create dissention and disband them.

I kind of disagree with your depiction of the CIA as a general characterization of what it normally does, but, to answer your question, you would use the techniques evolved by Bernays (includes instilling mass fear, but other deep psychology based persuasion techniques). You would control mass messaging. You would increase government so as to increase control of everything. The CIA is controlled by elected civilians and generally follows policy direction from them. Sometimes some rogue compartment does something on their own. MK Ultra is an example. They get in trouble when caught (see Church Commission as an example). There is no overthrowing of governments without direction from the civilians in government. Blame the people you vote for. There really are no small teams doing rogue operations. Remember there's also the DIA, NSA, State Dept and now Homeland Security as well as intelligence in each service (Army, AF, USMC, Navy and Coast Guard). Then there's FBI ( a terrible bunch). I assume you're using "CIA" as a coach all term that really means any of those organizations.



is generally getting your desires and goals met.
Bad is generally the opposite.
Evil is "bad" but with a more complex relationship with the future where weights and values are applied based on potential, and it is also related to a prey's perspective on the predator, and it is also related to the desire that others feel what you feel. If you feel good you want to share it with others. Sometimes if people are wounded (think Scar from lion king or Joker from Batman) they want to make others feel the pain they feel too.

Careful! Evil people enjoy harming others. They need to do that to feel powerful, but also because it brings them as close to what we would call "happiness" or, more appropriately, "satisfied". We all have the potential for evil within us, but some people, that's the whole personality and soul. They're twisted. You cannot evaluate them from a normal perspective.

My humble opinion is that evil enslaves, controls others and disrespects others' individual rights. Evil ultimately destroys people to their very soul if it can. It's what it wants to do; create damage that follow that soul even into the afterlife. And it's quite deliberate.

Good, OTOH, helps raise others up spiritually while respecting freedom and the mind and soul of others. Good is humble. Evil is arrogant. Good seeks to be closer to God. Evil denies God exists, yet mocks god all the while.Good seeks truth. Evil spreads lies. Good brings peace. Evil brings confusion and pain. We know these things in our heart.

EDIT: Thinking about this some more......A lot of what is going on re; cults and brainwashing that many of us object to is coming from the political parties as opposed to the "CIA". The Democrat party is running the majority of the information operations. That is a relatively new phenomenon, at least with regards to the level of intensity, frequency and percent of topics it is applied to. It couldn't happen in the past because the media performed as a buffer. Now, however, the media is aligned with the parties and carries the message. Again, far more prevalent on the left, but is happening on the right as well. Media participation is key to these ops. How did the media get on board? I don't know for sure. I've read/heard a lot of theories. I don't have media experience. So hard to tell which theories are reasonable. Seems that corporate consolidation of media and corporate sponsorship through advertising are major factors. But why would various corporations be interested in promoting the Left's messaging? IDK.
 
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Watched all this series, think it’s brilliant and LOVE David! Fantastic interview, such a good rapport! He does great work, but there’s a lot of that around these days, yay! The difference is he really reminds me always where folks are really at, which is so easy for me to get out of touch with and is a needed reminder always. Don’t forget the beginners, and the emotional toll there, it’s much bigger than just ‘the data’. Alex does such a perfect job bridging to the ‘normies’ here, sets a good example for me.

More coming, looking very forward to this conversation, if I can spare the time to keep engaging! Thanks to y'all for being here and sharing!
 
I found much of interest in the interview, so my thanks to David and Alex. David seems like a gentle soul with an alert mentality who seeks to do what is the good, and there is a severe lack of such persons today. I’d like to take a few of the threads that came up in the interview and weave them together in a slightly different way than was done.

The Duke of Brunswick thought that Freemasonry had been subverted by occultists, but he was far short of the mark. The entire world is now run by them. And what I learned from Mark Passio, whose work I enthusiastically recommend, is that Dark Occultists study one thing above all others: how the human mind actually works. I recommend all who seek to resist them do the same.

So how does this apply to Operation COVID and the Cult of the Branch Covidians? Well, allow me to illustrate how the human mind actually works by taking a left turn from an event mentioned in the episode: the Jonestown mass suicide. In this paper, “San Francisco and Jonestown" (21-page PDF), you will be shown “a lot of evidence that not only was the Jonestown mass suicide of 1978 faked, but the assassinations of Moscone and Milk of the same year were as well.” Now stop for a moment! Examine your reaction to that bold claim very carefully and fix it in your mind.

Did you dismiss it out of hand? “Everyone knows all those poor fools drank the koolaid. I was alive when it happened and remember it on the news!” If that’s similar to your reaction, now you know the mentality of the vast majority who are going along with this COVID program. (For some fun, when you hear one of them say, “Everyone knows!” simply ask, “Yes, but how do YOU know?”)

These people are NPCs, a brutal truth made painfully apparent over the last couple of years. In short, they have no capability of rationality where such would put them contrary to what they have been programmed with by their “authorities”. What they have been instructed to be true is—by definition—true, and they will come up with any reasoning or invent any fact to back it up. And in the end, it is all driven by personal fear in a base-level consciousness.

So maybe your reaction was more like, “Oh, there may be something to that, but who knows?” Well, congratulations, now you know why there has been widespread cooperation from scientists, doctors, nurses, politicians, health administrators, etc., and a fair part of the general public. These are the people in “the middle” as was discussed. These are “drowsy” souls, neither asleep nor awake nor yet feeling the desire to awaken.

Are they evil? IDK, but I do know that evil only needs them to “get along by going along”. Be aware that these are the primary targets of the Dark Occultists, and that is made most plain by studying their surrogates, the Satanists. The kernel of what Satanists push is “solipsism”, which is best described as a universal relativism (including of both morality and fact). These people in the middle could be convinced by the evidence, and many have, but what militates strongly against that is their subconscious realization that such truths jeopardize immediately their career and achievements, and ultimately the foundations of their very worldview and their identity in it. Few can overcome their fear to face such a prospect, and fewer still feel a moral compulsion to even try.

But maybe your reaction was more like, “Wait—what?!? Sounds unlikely, but I’ll have to check it out to verify my reaction.” You are awake, which is probably why you’re reading this in the first place. But realize that, while growing, there are very few of us. I’d guesstimate about 5% of the population. And now you know why it’s so hard getting through to other people.

Interestingly, I’ve found that awakened people also feel moral outrage at the current COVID situation and many others. This correlation is so high that I believe it should be given consideration as to whether higher consciousness and a strong moral sense are in fact one and the same thing.

Finally, if your reaction was, “Welp, that would hardly be surprising at this point,” or “LOL, old news!” then I greet you, brother or sister. You also realize that the well we’re in is far deeper than any of us thought. But I’m actually optimistic, which is a story for another day.

Thanks to anyone that read this far.
 
...Your soul is a structure too and there is a grinning little boy out there that wants to smush it purely for the pleasure of seeing your building blocks scattered around the universe. There is also an overbearing parent out there that wants your soul to be locked into its version of perfection for eternity and wants to perfectly define your identity and know everything about you and make you behave according to its goals and this is just another form of destruction through the breaking of your Will.

awesomeness!!!

Dark Knight: Alfred Pennyworth : Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
 
I found much of interest in the interview, so my thanks to David and Alex. David seems like a gentle soul with an alert mentality who seeks to do what is the good, and there is a severe lack of such persons today. I’d like to take a few of the threads that came up in the interview and weave them together in a slightly different way than was done.

The Duke of Brunswick thought that Freemasonry had been subverted by occultists, but he was far short of the mark. The entire world is now run by them. And what I learned from Mark Passio, whose work I enthusiastically recommend, is that Dark Occultists study one thing above all others: how the human mind actually works. I recommend all who seek to resist them do the same.

So how does this apply to Operation COVID and the Cult of the Branch Covidians? Well, allow me to illustrate how the human mind actually works by taking a left turn from an event mentioned in the episode: the Jonestown mass suicide. In this paper, “San Francisco and Jonestown" (21-page PDF), you will be shown “a lot of evidence that not only was the Jonestown mass suicide of 1978 faked, but the assassinations of Moscone and Milk of the same year were as well.” Now stop for a moment! Examine your reaction to that bold claim very carefully and fix it in your mind.

Did you dismiss it out of hand? “Everyone knows all those poor fools drank the koolaid. I was alive when it happened and remember it on the news!” If that’s similar to your reaction, now you know the mentality of the vast majority who are going along with this COVID program. (For some fun, when you hear one of them say, “Everyone knows!” simply ask, “Yes, but how do YOU know?”)

These people are NPCs, a brutal truth made painfully apparent over the last couple of years. In short, they have no capability of rationality where such would put them contrary to what they have been programmed with by their “authorities”. What they have been instructed to be true is—by definition—true, and they will come up with any reasoning or invent any fact to back it up. And in the end, it is all driven by personal fear in a base-level consciousness.

So maybe your reaction was more like, “Oh, there may be something to that, but who knows?” Well, congratulations, now you know why there has been widespread cooperation from scientists, doctors, nurses, politicians, health administrators, etc., and a fair part of the general public. These are the people in “the middle” as was discussed. These are “drowsy” souls, neither asleep nor awake nor yet feeling the desire to awaken.

Are they evil? IDK, but I do know that evil only needs them to “get along by going along”. Be aware that these are the primary targets of the Dark Occultists, and that is made most plain by studying their surrogates, the Satanists. The kernel of what Satanists push is “solipsism”, which is best described as a universal relativism (including of both morality and fact). These people in the middle could be convinced by the evidence, and many have, but what militates strongly against that is their subconscious realization that such truths jeopardize immediately their career and achievements, and ultimately the foundations of their very worldview and their identity in it. Few can overcome their fear to face such a prospect, and fewer still feel a moral compulsion to even try.

But maybe your reaction was more like, “Wait—what?!? Sounds unlikely, but I’ll have to check it out to verify my reaction.” You are awake, which is probably why you’re reading this in the first place. But realize that, while growing, there are very few of us. I’d guesstimate about 5% of the population. And now you know why it’s so hard getting through to other people.

Interestingly, I’ve found that awakened people also feel moral outrage at the current COVID situation and many others. This correlation is so high that I believe it should be given consideration as to whether higher consciousness and a strong moral sense are in fact one and the same thing.

Finally, if your reaction was, “Welp, that would hardly be surprising at this point,” or “LOL, old news!” then I greet you, brother or sister. You also realize that the well we’re in is far deeper than any of us thought. But I’m actually optimistic, which is a story for another day.

Thanks to anyone that read this far.
"Operation COVID and the Cult of the Branch Covidians"... nice one!

but don't fall for any of that flat earthish holohoaxer bullshit... steady as she goes mate.
 
This Canadian former ethics professor says that the authoritarian mandates have been a long time in coming, having started at a societal level back in the 1960s. She is warning that things will only get much worse in the upcoming months.


Thanks for the link, looks interesting, going to listen later. But just from what you summarized for us I agree and would go back much further than the ethics professor to the corporatization of our institutions, which goes way back, at least a century, if not to the very foundations of our entire continental ‘civilization’. I was just listening to a podcast with Recluse and Jimmy Falun (The Farm) about Mormononomics and the incredible wealth they’ve amassed since their inception and all the devious ways this is done, which is really just business as usual. We didn’t get to this place of enormous economic disparity since just the 60s no doubt. It has been incremental, slow march through the institutions, just as the Fabian society and similarly-minded social engineers stated. Ayn Rand spent her career warning of this and on it marched to mostly deaf ears. This is why I appreciate so much those taking a historical perspective, pointing to the ancient threads even that have been weaved to create this ‘totalitarian tiptoe’ manifesting in plain sight.
 
Just about halfway through. I went to the show page and the transcripts are fine. But is there a way we can get a page that has links to all the evidence Alex keeps using? That would make very good evidence to look and pass on to others.
Alex's claims on Global Warming, COVID, Evil, NDE's etc....
Just a thought.
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I kind of disagree with your depiction of the CIA as a general characterization of what it normally does, but, to answer your question, you would use the techniques evolved by Bernays (includes instilling mass fear, but other deep psychology based persuasion techniques). You would control mass messaging. You would increase government so as to increase control of everything. The CIA is controlled by elected civilians and generally follows policy direction from them. Sometimes some rogue compartment does something on their own. MK Ultra is an example. They get in trouble when caught (see Church Commission as an example). There is no overthrowing of governments without direction from the civilians in government. Blame the people you vote for. There really are no small teams doing rogue operations. Remember there's also the DIA, NSA, State Dept and now Homeland Security as well as intelligence in each service (Army, AF, USMC, Navy and Coast Guard). Then there's FBI ( a terrible bunch). I assume you're using "CIA" as a coach all term that really means any of those organizations.

Yes, using CIA as catch all...

I was just making the point that cohesive groups are valuable tools in statecraft.

Satanists or anarchists will never be a real threat to the power structure because they by their nature are anti-structure... so they can't organize well enough to mount a defense... and their acting out just helps the state justify its existence so the statecraft play is to support them under the table and also use them for blackmail to control key players. On the other hand groups like Freemasons who are well organized and highly structured could potentially be a network that offers resistance or a network that offers support... so it must be co-opted.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it... Satanists could be considered a cohesive group although very unreliable so co-opting their "organizations" is probably a benefit as well even if it is like herding cats.

This Canadian former ethics professor says that the authoritarian mandates have been a long time in coming, having started at a societal level back in the 1960s. She is warning that things will only get much worse in the upcoming months.

SMH...
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Alex’s question: “What do we think about ‘evil forces’ co-opting secret societies . . .”

Of course! Not just secret societies, ALL of it! That’s what evil does, it doesn’t create, it infiltrates and destroys from the inside, rotting all it comes into contact with if left unchecked. Once the institutions or organizations become very large this is very easy to do because you only need a handful of corrupt people to create a culture of corruption. The knowledge and wisdom the secret societies were trying to protect is not evil, but making that into an appealing quest to others up a hierarchy of ‘esoteric secrets’ engenders the mystique of the forbidden, which in turn attracts power-seekers, which then use that formula for whatever ends they want, which is money, control and power in a perpetual socio-political sort of Ponzi scheme.

Everyone feels quite detached from the resulting social decay because the ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil’ has been preached by our religious leaders for centuries. To be a ‘good’ person means able to detach from evil. We see this in our families as readily as in our institutions. My grandmother was called ‘a saint’ for her ability to turn a blind eye to an abusive spouse, and this is/was the norm. Fauci (I like to call him Fausti) is the manifestation of the tyrannical father that folks have a subconscious Stockholm Syndrome with, that they never confronted in their own childhoods because it was forbidden, and now they have a 2nd chance to confront their fear of ’Him’. Most, like children, are terrified of this prospect because it requires they remember the first battle against the tyrant that they lost in childhood.
 
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Yes, using CIA as catch all...

I was just making the point that cohesive groups are valuable tools in statecraft.

Satanists or anarchists will never be a real threat to the power structure because they by their nature are anti-structure... so they can't organize well enough to mount a defense... and their acting out just helps the state justify its existence so the statecraft play is to support them under the table and also use them for blackmail to control key players. On the other hand groups like Freemasons who are well organized and highly structured could potentially be a network that offers resistance or a network that offers support... so it must be co-opted.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it... Satanists could be considered a cohesive group although very unreliable so co-opting their "organizations" is probably a benefit as well even if it is like herding cats.

Intelligence agencies, US military and State used to work to further US interests. You may not agree w/ their methods. You may not agree w/ an aggressive USA first policy, but, nonetheless, that's what those organizations did.The business of America is business and business requires security around the world. Like it or not, call it "empire" if you wish, but we all benefitted greatly from that approach.

Now those organizations are purposefully staffed w/ people that have bought into the notion that the USA is an empire in decline and that the future is a global community led by the UN (and/or people behind the scenes). I see that as a self-fulfilling prophecy, but it is what it is. So they will commit acts of what I would, by any traditional definition, consider treason to achieve their vision of the future.

All cults and organizations are seen as useful idiots or pawns in the move to the great re-set. Even a handful of satanists can propagate a lot of anti- US info. This is one reason I have been railing against false or sketchy CTs, as well as US evil because slavery, etc, etc - what Alex is now calling "flat earth" and hologram stuff, but much more that he and others here are into. They serve to 1. discredit the US and to predispose people to believing the US is inherently unjust and evil and deserving of dissolution and 2. distract from paying attention to the real conspiracy that is afoot. 3. Discredit real conspiracies as just more fringe CT nonsense.

We're at war and everyone's got to chose a side. There's no more goofing around on the sidelines searching for "truth" and stomping on your own flag in the process. The only truth that matters is that we are about to lose all of the rights and freedoms we enjoy, as well as our material wealth. You won't like living without those things. For all of traditional USA's faults, it's a quantum leap better than what's coming.
 
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Alex, I'm sorry to hear that you have family suffering with epilepsy.

Not knowing the particulars of their cases, I can't say with certainty that it will help them, but the elimination of carbohydrates from the diet replacing them with high quality fats is a well known treatment for epilepsy, especially for children.

Read about it in Dr. Joseph Mercola's book "Fat For Fuel".

https://www.amazon.com/Fat-Fuel-Revolutionary-Combat-Increase-ebook/dp/B06W2KVK1P/

I hope this is helpful.
 
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