Death of (a) Justice

Was Scalia murdered?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • No

    Votes: 6 54.5%
  • Probably

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Probably not

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11
#1
Was Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia murdered?

The most conservative judicial roadblock to the globalist puppet Obama regime just died in my state this weekend.

According to the former special forces millionaire Democrat Obama buddy/donor and owner of the ranch/resort where Scalia died, Scalia was found in peaceful repose "with a pillow over his head." Yet no autopsy was ordered and in less than 24 hours he was embalmed.

...At least he wasn't dumped into the ocean.
 
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#2
Didn't Scalia want sodomy to remain a crime? As in, sex acts done in the privacy of one's home?

Also he had problems with the idea that we have autonomy over our bodies?

And I don't recall him being too good on the separation of Church & State?

Maybe I'm making a mistake, and happy to be corrected...but seems like he was happy for a kind of global regime, so long as it was under some religious edicts about how we live our lives?

edit: Looks I wasn't wrong about the Church & State thing?

Yeah, not feeling the idea just some guys think random writings came from God they should be promoted by the government.

Guess if he was defending against a global regime, he was only mad the wrong guys were in charge.

Hardly a guy I'd trust to protect my freedoms.
 
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#3
Was Supreme Court Justice Anthony Scalia murdered?

The most conservative judicial roadblock to the globalist puppet Obama regime just died in my state this weekend.

A man who was quite clearly anti gay, opposed desegregation, opposed the banning of executing minor criminals, opposed women's right to choose by his desire to overturn Roe v. Wade. What a mensch, eh? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/13/opinion/justice-antonin-scalias-supreme-court-legacy.html?_r=0

According to the former special forces millionaire Democrat Obama buddy/donor and owner of the ranch/resort where Scalia died, Scalia was found in peaceful repose "with a pillow over his head." Yet no autopsy was ordered and in less than 24 hours he was embalmed.

...At least he wasn't dumped into the ocean.
Two things. First, I know people who sleep with pillows over their heads, having shared rooms with both of them, I've seen them go to sleep by holding over their head.

Second, Scalia was a heavy smoker and drinker with heart problems so its not unsurprising he died of a heart attack. It's what happened to my dad. There is no mystery.
 
#4
Didn't Scalia want sodomy to remain a crime? As in, sex acts done in the privacy of one's home?

Also he had problems with the idea that we have autonomy over our bodies?

And I don't recall him being too good on the separation of Church & State?

Maybe I'm making a mistake, and happy to be corrected...but seems like he was happy for a kind of global regime, so long as it was under some religious edicts about how we live our lives?

edit: Looks I wasn't wrong about the Church & State thing?

Yeah, not feeling the idea just some guys think random writings came from God they should be promoted by the government.

Guess if he was defending against a global regime, he was only mad the wrong guys were in charge.

Hardly a guy I'd trust to protect my freedoms.
A man who was quite clearly anti gay, opposed desegregation, opposed the banning of executing minor criminals, opposed women's right to choose by his desire to overturn Roe v. Wade. What a mensch, eh? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/13/opinion/justice-antonin-scalias-supreme-court-legacy.html?_r=0
I wasn't intending to debate the merits of Scalia's decisions or opinions... those could be debated on an individual basis in other discussions. I really just started this thread to mention the suspicious circumstances around his death.

Is it plausible he simply died of natural causes? Sure. He was old.
Is it plausible he simply went to sleep with a pillow over his head and didn't wake up? Sure. I have on rare occasions slept with a pillow over my eyes to block out light and sound.

But good law enforcement does not make decisions and jump to conclusions based solely on what is "plausible".

The death of any judge regardless of circumstances is always treated with a modicum of suspicion... how much more the most powerful judge in the U.S.? How much more a judge standing in the way of globalist agendas?
The unexpected death of any person is initially treated by investigators as a potential homicide and an autopsy is performed by default.
Texas state law as well as good police practice requires that an autopsy be performed. But no autopsy was performed. This is completely outrageous. Cinderella, the JP could not trouble her fat ass to go out and see the body of the most powerful judge in the nation, but declared that he died of natural causes based solely on a phone call from an unnamed source.

The fact that standard law enforcement procedure and state law was not followed is a huge red flag.

Now about the pillow over the head...

Put yourself in Poindexter's position. You're a former special forces operator and millionaire business man who has spent a lifetime dealing personally with killing and conspiracies on the battlefield and in the business world. You're talking about the death of one of the most powerful men in the nation who died while a guest on your property under your watch.......and you mention that you found him with a pillow over his head. Why?
A) You're too stupid to find this suspicious or consider the fact that others might find this suspicious and you're too stupid to choose your words carefully.
B) You know this will arouse suspicion and be gasoline to the fires of conspiracy theories, but you go ahead and throw it out there.

(A) seems highly unlikely. No one gets to be a special forces operator and then millionaire businessman without being smart and understanding how to carefully craft statements and control perceptions.
(B) seems like the only logical choice.

If Poindexter chose his words carefully, then his statement about the pillow only makes sense if it was intended to send a message of intimidation.
 
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#5
I'm questioning the motive.

Again, I'm happy to be corrected but it seems to me that if anything Scalia was a boon to corporate powers and the subversion of rights for those incarcerated (and thus those who would protest those powers)?

So what globalist agenda was he opposing? Which of his judicial decisions do you see as opposed to authority?

p.s. This isn't to suggest Obama was a shining knight for freedom.
 
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#6
I'm questioning the motive.

Again, I'm happy to be corrected but it seems to me that if anything Scalia was a boon to corporate powers and the subversion of rights for those incarcerated (and thus those who would protest those powers)?

So what globalist agenda was he opposing? Which of his judicial decisions do you see as opposed to authority?

p.s. This isn't to suggest Obama was a shining knight for freedom.
I am admittedly weak on my knowledge of his decisions and opinions, but I have gathered that he was an "originalist" and "textualist" in his interpretation of the constitution as a fixed (not living) document. He was opposed to the Obamacare tax. He supported gun rights. He supported State's rights. He was opposed to internment camps saying that the internment of Japanese during WWII was wrong and warned that we're kidding ourselves if we think it won't happen again during a future conflict. He was a Catholic who seemed sincere in his beliefs and convictions. He has been described as an intellectual anchor of the conservatives in the Supreme court. I don't get the impression that he was libertarian enough for my tastes, but his death opens up a slot for a radical socialist / liberal to potentially enter who will - like Obama - completely trample the constitution.

Back in October Matt Drudge revealed that he had been contacted by a Supreme Court Justice who gave him a heads up saying: "It's over for you". He said that the fix was in and they had the votes to enforce copyright law and that he was outta there and that the alternative media would be seriously detrimentally affected. Some have speculated that Scalia was the one who warned Drudge. It will be interesting to see whether this prediction comes true in the next year or two.
 
#7
I'm surprised by the lack of skepticism so far...

When any body is found dead of unknown causes an autopsy is performed. If Obama died of unknown causes, and the JP didn't even come out to see the body or order the autopsy, wouldn't that spark a massive outrage? But oh it was just a conservative Supreme Court judge so no big deal...
 
#8
I'm surprised by the lack of skepticism so far...

When any body is found dead of unknown causes an autopsy is performed. If Obama died of unknown causes, and the JP didn't even come out to see the body or order the autopsy, wouldn't that spark a massive outrage? But oh it was just a conservative Supreme Court judge so no big deal...
Men like Scalia don't get murdered imo, they're much more likely to be on the side that orders others to be murdered. Did he recently turn against them by some off the wall verdicts or something else? If not my money's on natural causes, if there's anything fishy about how his death gets handled, it's probably to cover up in his favour.

But who knows? In that world it's way past dog eat dog.

Cynical? .... Me ? ;)
 
#9
I wasn't intending to debate the merits of Scalia's decisions or opinions... those could be debated on an individual basis in other discussions. I really just started this thread to mention the suspicious circumstances around his death.

Is it plausible he simply died of natural causes? Sure. He was old.
Is it plausible he simply went to sleep with a pillow over his head and didn't wake up? Sure. I have on rare occasions slept with a pillow over my eyes to block out light and sound.

But good law enforcement does not make decisions and jump to conclusions based solely on what is "plausible".

The death of any judge regardless of circumstances is always treated with a modicum of suspicion... how much more the most powerful judge in the U.S.? How much more a judge standing in the way of globalist agendas?
The unexpected death of any person is initially treated by investigators as a potential homicide and an autopsy is performed by default.
Texas state law as well as good police practice requires that an autopsy be performed. But no autopsy was performed. This is completely outrageous. Cinderella, the JP could not trouble her fat ass to go out and see the body of the most powerful judge in the nation, but declared that he died of natural causes based solely on a phone call from an unnamed source.

The fact that standard law enforcement procedure and state law was not followed is a huge red flag.

Now about the pillow over the head...

Put yourself in Poindexter's position. You're a former special forces operator and millionaire business man who has spent a lifetime dealing personally with killing and conspiracies on the battlefield and in the business world. You're talking about the death of one of the most powerful men in the nation who died while a guest on your property under your watch.......and you mention that you found him with a pillow over his head. Why?
A) You're too stupid to find this suspicious or consider the fact that others might find this suspicious and you're too stupid to choose your words carefully.
B) You know this will arouse suspicion and be gasoline to the fires of conspiracy theories, but you go ahead and throw it out there.

(A) seems highly unlikely. No one gets to be a special forces operator and then millionaire businessman without being smart and understanding how to carefully craft statements and control perceptions.
(B) seems like the only logical choice.

If Poindexter chose his words carefully, then his statement about the pillow only makes sense if it was intended to send a message of intimidation.
No it isn't. Autopsies are not 'always performed' by default (unless the laws are different in the US than in blighty)

His death is hardly a shock given his health issues, a chain smoking over weight drinker with heart problems dropping dead at the average life expectancy age of 79 is not a mystery at all; he was unhealthy, old and he died
 
#10
I am admittedly weak on my knowledge of his decisions and opinions, but I have gathered that he was an "originalist" and "textualist" in his interpretation of the constitution as a fixed (not living) document. He was opposed to the Obamacare tax. He supported gun rights. He supported State's rights. He was opposed to internment camps saying that the internment of Japanese during WWII was wrong and warned that we're kidding ourselves if we think it won't happen again during a future conflict. He was a Catholic who seemed sincere in his beliefs and convictions. He has been described as an intellectual anchor of the conservatives in the Supreme court. I don't get the impression that he was libertarian enough for my tastes, but his death opens up a slot for a radical socialist / liberal to potentially enter who will - like Obama - completely trample the constitution..
Hang on, I thought you said Obama was a corporatist for a globalist agenda. Socialism is an economic system where the workers own the means of production. Him being corporatist would mean he wants more power in the hands of a few at the top. Hardly the workers down below

What's wrong with liberalism, gay people should be able to get married, there is no good reason why not. A woman's right to choose is also fundamental, it's no ones damn business if she decides to get an abortion. Receiving healthcare should not be contingent on your ability to pay, getting sick isn't a choice.

Finally, you say Obama has trampled on the constitution, how is this so? Executive action? He's perfectly within his obligations to use them, and has done so less than a great deal other number of presidents.
 
#11
No it isn't. Autopsies are not 'always performed' by default (unless the laws are different in the US than in blighty)

His death is hardly a shock given his health issues, a chain smoking over weight drinker with heart problems dropping dead at the average life expectancy age of 79 is not a mystery at all; he was unhealthy, old and he died
Texas law requires it. And standard police practice anywhere would treat this as a potential homicide scene and require an autopsy and collection of evidence from the scene for analysis.

He might have had health problems, but he was healthy enough to go on a hunting trip hours away from medical care. No one said he seemed unwell the night before.

All judges are potential targets for murder. He is a high value target for assassination and he left his security detail behind. There were no witnesses of his death. Cause of death was unknown. According to Poindexter, he was found "with a pillow over his head".

An autopsy and complete investigation of the scene is a no-brainer even if it is likely he died of natural causes.

A co-worker of my Dad's died a few years back. He was old. Found him at his own house floating in his own pool and he was just a friendly geologist. They did an autopsy and found it was a heart attack.
 
#13
Motive? Scalia was a conservative on a court with a one conservative majority and this is the president's last year in office when he can appoint anyone to the court. It is a last chance to change the balance of the court because they are doubtful that a Democrat will win the presidency. Hillary could be indicted later this year. Trump is popular among many Democrats.
 
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