Dr. Arnaud Delorme, Is Consciousness Fundamental? |607|

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Dr. Arnaud Delorme, Is Consciousness Fundamental? |607|


Consciousness in the lab… Mind wandering… Mediumship experiments

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Here’s a summary of the interview with Dr. Arnaud Delorme on “Skeptiko”​

  1. Background of Dr. Delorme: He is a distinguished professor at the University of California, San Diego, and an IONS scientist. He has published over a hundred reviewed papers and is a longtime meditator, bringing personal experience to the subject of consciousness.
  2. Focus of Delorme’s Book: His book, “Why Our Minds Wander,” explores consciousness and the phenomenon of mind-wandering, delving into questions like why it occurs and whether it can be controlled.
  3. Mind Wandering and Meditation: Delorme discusses his own experiences with mind wandering, especially during meditation, and how different meditation traditions view and handle mind wandering.
  4. Consciousness and Neuroscience: Delorme proposes that consciousness might be more than just brain activity. He suggests that consciousness could be a fundamental force in the universe, similar to other fundamental forces like gravity.
  5. Experimentation on Consciousness: Delorme talks about various experiments to explore the hypothesis that consciousness extends beyond the brain, discussing the potential of consciousness to interact with matter.
  6. Mediumship and Psychic Experiments: Delorme has conducted experiments with mediums and psychics to test their claims of accessing information not ordinarily available, exploring the possibilities of telepathy and other phenomena.
  7. Artificial Intelligence and Consciousness: Delorme discusses AI, noting current AI’s lack of consciousness but acknowledging the potential for AI to become sentient in the future.
  8. The Nature of Consciousness Debate: He addresses the ongoing debate in the scientific community regarding the nature of consciousness, emphasizing the importance of empirical data in shaping our understanding.
  9. Research on Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences: Delorme mentions research in inducing out-of-body experiences and studying near-death experiences, aiming to understand their implications for our understanding of consciousness.
  10. Future Research and Impact on Science: Delorme highlights his ongoing research and its potential to transform our understanding of consciousness, including its impact on fields like neuroscience and AI.
The interview covers a wide range of topics, focusing on consciousness, meditation, and the intersection of science and spirituality.
 
Interesting interview with Dr Arnaud Delorme.

Alex in this podcast points out AI needs to be tested in parapsychological experiments to pass the Turing Test. Yes, for Alan Turing predicted these experiments back in 1950. As far as I know, no one has done these properly in past because only in the past few years has AI been anywhere near human intelligence, that day may have arrived. Here is what Turing said in 1950 …

'…. A more specific argument based on ESP might run as follows: "Let us play the imitation game, using as witnesses a man who is good as a telepathic receiver, and a digital computer. The interrogator can ask such questions as 'What suit does the card in my right hand belong to?' The man by telepathy or clairvoyance gives the right answer 130 times out of 400 cards. The machine can only guess at random, and perhaps gets 104 right, so the interrogator makes the right identification....." - Alan Turing in his 1950 paper 'Computing Machinery and Intelligence'

Unnecessarily complex, one just needs a computer (off internet) to select randomized photographs. Perhaps Ganzfeld software? Then ask the chatbot AI to try sense the image prior to selection (for forced choice precognition) or after selection (for clairvoyance / telepathy). As Alex pointed out previously, AI could be tested much quicker than humans in experiments, so it is not that difficult.

Alex may I suggest you call it 'precognition' instead of 'presentiment' since the latter is associated with measuring heart rate, pupil dilation, brain electrical activity as bodily reactions, which currently have no equivalent in a AI chatbot. Also 'presentiment' is sometimes classified 'unconscious psi' which gives political materialists the excuse to confuse the matter by claiming psi has nothing to do with consciousness or free will.

Dr Arnaud Delorme said around 70% of scientists don't believe in free will. Yes amazing, considering they live every day of their life to the contrary! [[p]]
 
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Interesting interview with Dr Arnaud Delorme.

Alex in this podcast points out AI needs to be tested in parapsychological experiments to pass the Turing Test. Yes, for Alan Turing predicted these experiments back in 1950. As far as I know, no one has done these properly in past because only in the past few years has AI been anywhere near human intelligence, that day may have arrived. Here is what Turing said in 1950 …

'…. A more specific argument based on ESP might run as follows: "Let us play the imitation game, using as witnesses a man who is good as a telepathic receiver, and a digital computer. The interrogator can ask such questions as 'What suit does the card in my right hand belong to?' The man by telepathy or clairvoyance gives the right answer 130 times out of 400 cards. The machine can only guess at random, and perhaps gets 104 right, so the interrogator makes the right identification....." - Alan Turing in his 1950 paper 'Computing Machinery and Intelligence'

Unnecessarily complex, one just needs a computer (off internet) to select randomized photographs. Perhaps Ganzfeld software? Then ask the chatbot AI to try sense the image prior to selection (for forced choice precognition) or after selection (for clairvoyance / telepathy). As Alex pointed out previously, AI could be tested much quicker than humans in experiments, so it is not that difficult.

Alex may I suggest you call it 'precognition' instead of 'presentiment' since the latter is associated with measuring heart rate, pupil dilation, brain electrical activity as bodily reactions, which currently have no equivalent in a AI chatbot. Also 'presentiment' is sometimes classified 'unconscious psi' which gives political materialists the excuse to confuse the matter by claiming psi has nothing to do with consciousness or free will.

Dr Arnaud Delorme said around 70% of scientists don't believe in free will. Yes amazing, considering they live every day of their life to the contrary! [[p]]
wow. Fantastic. Thank you so much for this quote. Now I got to run off and read that paper [[p]]
 
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