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ShaneTheThinker
Dude, if you're just going to make up "facts", then what's the point of talking to you?
Dude, if you are just going to parrot what you see on the media, its cool, we can still talk.
Dude, if you're just going to make up "facts", then what's the point of talking to you?
Why?Dude, if you are just going to parrot what you see on the media, its cool, we can still talk.
Why?
The goalposts moved I think.Yes. I believe that there will be studies upon studies upon studies in the future, for a very long time, that go into every single aspect of how this whole situation has played out. It will become socially acceptable in 10 years time to criticise the policies behind the lockdowns. It will be proven on a cost/benefit ratio, as to how much social unrest, economic destitution, unemployment, homelessness, deaths from lack of medical care etc etc etc the lockdowns caused. Not the pandemic. The lockdowns.
Flat Earth?
Well, maybe.
If our consciousness is an experience of a simulated universe, then the earth is not flat, it is rendered, it doesn't really exist, it is an illusion.
That being said, here's the Dynamic Duo of Jon Rappaport and Dr. Thomas Cowan explaining what isolating a virus means, and why it has never been done.
https://www.brighteon.com/bfae388f-0994-4bab-ac10-955305b7c536
Dr. Tom Cowan w/ Jon Rappoport: SARS-CoV-2 Has Never Been Isolated, Is Only an Imaginary or Theoretical Virus, and, Therefore, No Test Can Detect It
This video is from December 2020, after the failed Skeptiko episode with Dr. Cowan.
Alex, I believe you are capable of understanding this, so, if you continue to denigrate Dr. Cowan and insist that SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated, I'll have to presume you are complicit in the disinformation surrounding the so called Plandemic, and that, my friend, is Evil, IMHO.
Let me give these simulation idiots some advice: leave your comfort zone, go to a place where you don't know anybody, and try to survive....See how "rendered" the earth is when you don't have shit to eat and you have to live with people that treat you terribly.
Harsh, but well-said Shane. :)
This is the point of the question I asked Vortex last month here.
It's great fun to sit around sipping a warm beverage in a comfy chair and play out esoteric mind puzzles and brain-teasers, but when one walks out the front door into the real world, those quickly fade into irrelevance.
I wish more Westerners had more experience with the Real World. This would increase their motivation to get off their butts and actually do things to make the world a better place than they found it. The Money Printers are working hard to prevent that, but it won't last.
How do either of these things, printed money or gold, better a society?
Reasoned Moderation is usually best. The passion of Lust is good because it creates beautiful new baby humans, but too much Lust can be bad. The passion of Greed is good when it motivates people to seek profits by improving the world with better products and services, but bad when too much Greed causes people to steal.
Money Printing is bad because it's a form of theft. When I print dollars and spend them, I am stealing the value of the dollars in your savings account that you spent hours of your life to acquire. I'm effectively stealing your life energy, which is an immoral aggression.
This is why God gave us both animal Passions and human Reason, PLUS the Free Will to learn from our mistakes, or not. It's brilliant.
Anybody that thinks this existence is a simulation has spent way too much time playing video games, watching The Matrix. and/or listening to stupid, wanna be scientists/philosophers who have never been through any kind of difficult circumstance in their lives. In order for there to be a simulation there has to be a simulator and a place this is being simulated from. Is that place a simulation, too? Let me give these simulation idiots some advice: leave your comfort zone, go to a place where you don't know anybody, and try to survive....especially in cold weather. Tell me about how that was a simulation when you get done with those circumstances, as they are quite a bit different than what you are experiences on your VR.
See how "rendered" the earth is when you don't have shit to eat and you have to live with people that treat you terribly. See how rendered the food bank is with all the degenerate scum of society sitting around you as you wait your turn for rotted produce and expired meat. Also, see how rendered the earth is when you have to walk through snow for a mile, take two different buss rides filled with degenerates, then ride in a car for an hour with a toothless, pompous wanna be moonshiner just to get to work.
Certainly, in those situations, you are not pondering the "isolation of viruses." Furthermore, sickness is not a mystery, you actually witness it. It doesn't matter what people contemplate as its origin, albeit "viruses," "germs," or some stupid nonsense like "the body cleansing itself," as that idiot Dr. Kaufman says.
Harsh, but well-said Shane. :)
This is the point of the question I asked Vortex last month here.
It's great fun to sit around sipping a warm beverage in a comfy chair and play out esoteric mind puzzles and brain-teasers, but when one walks out the front door into the real world, those quickly fade into irrelevance.
I wish more Westerners had more experience with the Real World. This would increase their motivation to get off their butts and actually do things to make the world a better place than they found it. The Money Printers are working hard to prevent that, but it won't last.
Well, I never talk about simulation, since such concept requires something which is being simulated, thus remaining outside simulation, being "real". I prefer to talk about a shared dream, since this is what I think our existence literally is - innumerable streams of by-Selves-created and on-Selves-centered consciousnesses meeting and merging with each other to create an ever-changing ocean of shared phenomenal experience which we call "the world".
Outside this ocean, there is only the Abyss of Nothingness. There is no reality outside the conflation and convergence of minds, only the Void of Not-Existence.
I guess you missed this episode of Skeptiko.Anybody that thinks this existence is a simulation has spent way too much time playing video games, watching The Matrix. and/or listening to stupid, wanna be scientists/philosophers who have never been through any kind of difficult circumstance in their lives. In order for there to be a simulation there has to be a simulator and a place this is being simulated from. Is that place a simulation, too? Let me give these simulation idiots some advice: leave your comfort zone, go to a place where you don't know anybody, and try to survive....especially in cold weather. Tell me about how that was a simulation when you get done with those circumstances, as they are quite a bit different than what you are experiences on your VR.
See how "rendered" the earth is when you don't have shit to eat and you have to live with people that treat you terribly. See how rendered the food bank is with all the degenerate scum of society sitting around you as you wait your turn for rotted produce and expired meat. Also, see how rendered the earth is when you have to walk through snow for a mile, take two different buss rides filled with degenerates, then ride in a car for an hour with a toothless, pompous wanna be moonshiner just to get to work.
Certainly, in those situations, you are not pondering the "isolation of viruses." Furthermore, sickness is not a mystery, you actually witness it. It doesn't matter what people contemplate as its origin, albeit "viruses," "germs," or some stupid nonsense like "the body cleansing itself," as that idiot Dr. Kaufman says.
If you have ever worked at TJ Maxx, the you can fully understand that void of non existence. That is only one example.
The goalposts moved I think.
I actually agree with the paragraph above in that its a real possibility. I've maintained that from the start. We very well may have screwed the proverbial pooch in our societal response to COVID. History will judge; as always.
However, the paragraph above addresses nothing about a "plandemic", a conspiracy. That's the question: What is going to emerge to confirm/refute your stated belief that the pandemic response, or even the virus itself, was architected by conspirators? Again, the most logical explanation, should your paragraph come to pass, would be simple human fallibility.
If you have ever worked at TJ Maxx, the you can fully understand that void of non existence.
...can paradoxically become more painful than pain itself - to the point that a person would be ready to do very much anything
There is no reality outside the conflation and convergence of minds, only the Void of Not-Existence.
I guess you missed this episode of Skeptiko.
Riz Virk, The Simulation Hypothesis Beyond Materialism |442| - Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point
You'll be surprised, but on this one I actually agree with you. A person doomed to a drudgery within a bureaucratic corporate machine can and do very literally experience a touch of the Void of Not-Existence in its negative aspect of willlessness. Boredom, apathy, ennui - all of these, if reaching unbearable intensity (or, paradoxically, intense absence of any intensity!), can paradoxically become more painful than pain itself - to the point that a person would be ready to do very much anything, including reception and infliction of pain, which can, how strange it may seem, make one feel alive and even joyous, thus becoming a cure for emptiness. In the most intense cases, it may also lead to the active engagement in the negative aspect of existence - involuntariness / ill will, either as the one breaking the Will of the other one, or as the one ready to have one's Will broken by the other one, or both.
Well, I never talk about simulation, since such concept requires something which is being simulated, thus remaining outside simulation, being "real". I prefer to talk about a shared dream, since this is what I think our existence literally is - innumerable streams of by-Selves-created and on-Selves-centered consciousnesses meeting and merging with each other to create an ever-changing ocean of shared phenomenal experience which we call "the world".
Outside this ocean, there is only the Abyss of Nothingness. There is no reality outside the conflation and convergence of minds, only the Void of Not-Existence.
What outdoor projects do you have planned for this Spring as the snow melts?