Starmonkey
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Figured it would be lost on most here. You see what you want to see.
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Dr. Peter Breggin, Mental Health Reform and Covid |547|
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J Randall Murphy
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I don't "see what I want to see". I see the effect of light reflecting off of objects traveling through my eyes, where it's converted to bioelectrical impulses and interpreted by my visual cortex. The time travel scenario framed as transport between parallel universes is logically possible, but then again, even if they do have such capability, it's not really "time travel". It's transportation between parallel universes.
The Great Reset and The New World Order, are disturbing movements by the rich and powerful. There are a lot of takes on them, some of which I think are out on the fringe, but given their ties to all the COVID related power grabs and the erosion of our civil liberties, they're definitely something to be concerned about. I don't like letting politics get too far into my head, but when it turns into stuff being injected into my body, that's a whole other level.
Still watching the segment on the laptop — will comment later if you remind me. Being a PC tech, I can only say that I'd need to see the chain of evidence verifying that the data in question was actually from the laptop in question, that it was placed there by the accused, and that it was real and not faked somehow.
NOT that I like Biden ( I don't ). I thought it couldn't get any worse than Trump – Then came Biden. But the accusations in the video need to be fully substantiated, not simply leveled via hearsay as part of a smear campaign.
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Perfectly acceptable to me, Randall. So you choose to call, along with all the other names we have for the mysterious Force we call "God", "Nature." Very well.
I object to the "little mind"; to my continuing amazement, I have a mind that has allowed me to glimpse the unbounded, vastly interconnected reaches of the cosmos. R.J. Spina, who I wish Alex would have on sometime, has confirmed my experience of driving illness from my body by the sustained, passionate distaste for it. If Percival's Thinking & Destiny doesn't attract you, then consider one of Eckhart Tolle's recommended books: I Am That by Nisargadatta Maharaj. He says that by eliminating all the false things that you aren't, you are left w/ the Absolute Awareness. I'm not writing about the Infinite One as commonly slung around by the religious, but the Knower, that silent witness or watcher that's always there.
I guess I did misunderstand you about the soul/spirit, but as I conceive it, the soul is the feeling & desire aspect of the Triune Self. As Percival explains it, long ago, some spirits made a mistake while in imperfect male & female bodies. The natural functioning of the body-mind through the senses entranced the doers ( Triune Self: feeling & desire aspect, knower & thinker). This trance made the doers lose their balance, their self-control of their feeling & desire minds & their body-minds by which they maintained their body units in balance. Control passed to the body-mind of each doer who made this mistake & the doers fell under the illusion of the senses & thereafter only thought in the terms of the phenomena of time, of birth & death. Those who didn't enter the trance retained their balance & became high officers of nature as parts of the Gov't of the Realm of Permanence & in this human world of change.
I first ran across this in a book by Edgar Cayce's son. In short, spirits enjoyed the physical activities of animals so much that some spent so much time inhabiting their bodies that they literally forgot their spiritual make-up & were trapped, as Percival puts it, in an unbalanced trance state. This is the "illusion or dream" of the physical world's "reality." So I have to agree w/ you about nature being the only reality here since our dependence on the body-mind & its senses makes it appear that way.
I really feel we agree more than we realize. That's the trouble w/ language: terms like soul/spirit & so forth are hard to nail down. I used to think I understood C.G. Jung's use of soul, but then apparently he changed it over time, as he learned more. This is wonderful stuff b/c by design seemingly it is elusive & mysterious.
The mathematician, Donald Hoffman, was asked about the limits of science & sited that the tiniest particles that can be observed w/ the electron microscope were 10 to the -73, as I recall it. He said beyond that, the energy needed to view anything smaller would probably produce a black hole & destroy the lab or something along those lines. Looking at the stars, the last thing I read was that we could see 114 billion light years away, but there was no reason to believe that was the limit of the cosmos. So, the cosmos below & above is out of the reach of materialists, thank goodness!
But the persecutors are back in business at a whole new level: like Breggin says, his global predators want to destroy hope & passion thru several avenues. Drug addiction (opioids, fentanyl, concentrated canabinol, etc), violence (the spasm of gun-buying during the Plandemic made lockdowns & isolation doubly worth the "virus" gamble), economic devastation, & environmental destruction. Did you see the coverage of the bloody fighting at a Mexican soccer match? Naked & bleeding men sprawled in the stadium. The story tried to write it off as bad crowd management, but it had many of the elements that I listed. We have a major problem w/ murdering women in the USA, but disappearing girls & women seems like a national pastime in Mexico.
Starmonkey
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The Archives – Forbidden Knowledge TV
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/archive/
Mainly for three Project Looking Glass proGNOSTICations. Time to FOCUS and STAND if we want to turn the blood tide.
J Randall Murphy
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Yes — lots of violence in the world, and humans are no exception. Much of the stuff you mention are just symptoms rather than causes. It's a hard thing for some of us to accept that violence is a part of our nature as a species, and that we'll do terrible things to each other and the world around us. Many of us try to do better than that, but ultimately, our freedom to do what we think is best comes at whatever the cost is to defend that freedom. If all that time and energy could be put to more constructive peaceful use, the world would be idyllic, but it's just a dream — a far off, but not impossible dream.
J Randall Murphy
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Perhaps "your own little mind " was a poor choice of words. It wasn't anything personal. I consider mine equally as small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Somewhat ironically, it's the very reason that you bring up in your own defense that has shown us just how tiny and insignificant we are when compared to the cosmos. No doubt you've heard of The Pale Blue Dot ? That's the perspective I was working from.
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Starmonkey
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Treat "God" and "the devil" as metaphors, if you wish. It's the theme that's important.
Dispersing the clouds of erased and falsified history will he'll people to see. Not sure about a full return to tradition, just values. Not politicized or imposed or enforced but KNOWN.
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Starmonkey
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Watch the Water – Full Movie – Forbidden Knowledge TV
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/watch-the-water-full-movie/
Damn. Snakes.
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/watch-the-water-full-movie/
Damn. Snakes.
David Bailey
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That is an excellent expose of how big pharma works. It sounded amazingly familiar - it is so similar to the things that go on in the rest of medicine.
Maybe my only criticism was that he could have compressed his talk substantially, and that would have been even harder hitting.
David
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Starmonkey
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Verisimilitude - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude
Jack Ward
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Just finished the interview with Jordan Peterson and the lady from Quillette. Totally in my wheelhouse and stuff, I've been talking about for years now.
Thinking about Atheists rolling their eyes at his takes on religion and honestly, sometimes he loses me there, but I think he's on to something specifically about the role of religion as a sociological necessity for the viral distribution of shared morality among the body of a group of people. For good or for ill, without a coherent understanding of a moral structure, a society definitively breaks down.
So, while maybe none of us would want to go back to church weekly, there's a real argument to be made that the shared values that came from our early attending- as a community- the United Church of Canada developed coherent respect for our community, a desire to work to better the people around us, and an emotional glue that even though we may not agree on a number of things we have an ethical framework that we agree upon.
And of course, I'm not talking about the ridiculous minutia of the Bible. I've always thought that seeing the Bible as the untranslated word of God and something to be followed word-for-word is nuts. But that's the argument of BOTH Fundamentalists AND Atheists. That you have to take the Bible at its word. Historically, that has not really universally been the case. In fact, it's really late 19th century that the Bible as "the paper Pope" became what people felt. That's why it was so easy for the founders of the American constitution to be Deists but NOT fundamentalists, or even necessarily Christian. They could value- as Peterson does- the metaphorical and allegorical aspects of the Bible without taking it word for word.
Similarly, if we had a church built upon the holy Divinity of Star Trek or the Jedi, and it was taken as seriously by the community that these were "life lessons" the community would thrive and grow much more effectively than if there were no church at all. In fact, the absence of such an institution has broken down the four cornerstones of sociology in society- that being family, peers, the church and your school. Well, the school has been abdicating their role as a moral teacher for some time, but now ramping up Wokeness as the moral equivalency of what used to be Christian values. The Church is effectively absent from the entire conversation in our secular society- with the exception of small enclaves and they have built their own schools to reinforce their particular church values (talk about being narrow!). I've argued for over a decade now that Media, specifically the Internet and now social media has been the replaced institution for the Church in people's lives for good and for ill. And most of that is driven by the radicals and commerce.
Since the Internet and Media have such strong pressure on the youth, Peers simply reflect and enforce those values, and families don't have time or inclination to reflect on their own family values anymore.
I ask students how many families sit down for dinner even once a week. In a class of 30, the number maybe 4 or 5. In my grade 10 classes, I have students recount a "Big Fish" family story, and 95% of them have no knowledge of anything about their family histories. They don't know how their parents met. Most of them don't even know what their jobs are today, or what their grandparents did. Or how they met. Or what their parents were like as kids. There's a lack of curiosity of the past and the things that bind us.
https://player.fm/series/the-jordan...-the-most-controversial-magazine-in-the-world
Thinking about Atheists rolling their eyes at his takes on religion and honestly, sometimes he loses me there, but I think he's on to something specifically about the role of religion as a sociological necessity for the viral distribution of shared morality among the body of a group of people. For good or for ill, without a coherent understanding of a moral structure, a society definitively breaks down.
So, while maybe none of us would want to go back to church weekly, there's a real argument to be made that the shared values that came from our early attending- as a community- the United Church of Canada developed coherent respect for our community, a desire to work to better the people around us, and an emotional glue that even though we may not agree on a number of things we have an ethical framework that we agree upon.
And of course, I'm not talking about the ridiculous minutia of the Bible. I've always thought that seeing the Bible as the untranslated word of God and something to be followed word-for-word is nuts. But that's the argument of BOTH Fundamentalists AND Atheists. That you have to take the Bible at its word. Historically, that has not really universally been the case. In fact, it's really late 19th century that the Bible as "the paper Pope" became what people felt. That's why it was so easy for the founders of the American constitution to be Deists but NOT fundamentalists, or even necessarily Christian. They could value- as Peterson does- the metaphorical and allegorical aspects of the Bible without taking it word for word.
Similarly, if we had a church built upon the holy Divinity of Star Trek or the Jedi, and it was taken as seriously by the community that these were "life lessons" the community would thrive and grow much more effectively than if there were no church at all. In fact, the absence of such an institution has broken down the four cornerstones of sociology in society- that being family, peers, the church and your school. Well, the school has been abdicating their role as a moral teacher for some time, but now ramping up Wokeness as the moral equivalency of what used to be Christian values. The Church is effectively absent from the entire conversation in our secular society- with the exception of small enclaves and they have built their own schools to reinforce their particular church values (talk about being narrow!). I've argued for over a decade now that Media, specifically the Internet and now social media has been the replaced institution for the Church in people's lives for good and for ill. And most of that is driven by the radicals and commerce.
Since the Internet and Media have such strong pressure on the youth, Peers simply reflect and enforce those values, and families don't have time or inclination to reflect on their own family values anymore.
I ask students how many families sit down for dinner even once a week. In a class of 30, the number maybe 4 or 5. In my grade 10 classes, I have students recount a "Big Fish" family story, and 95% of them have no knowledge of anything about their family histories. They don't know how their parents met. Most of them don't even know what their jobs are today, or what their grandparents did. Or how they met. Or what their parents were like as kids. There's a lack of curiosity of the past and the things that bind us.
https://player.fm/series/the-jordan...-the-most-controversial-magazine-in-the-world
J Randall Murphy
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Being non-religious, I would say that it's entirely possible for a community to thrive and grow without a church. The problem is adequately making-up for the vacuum left by the church when no alternative resources have been embedded in society. I was once cautioned that before I take away anyone's belief in God, I should be prepared to offer them a suitable replacement. Unfortunately, that's not nearly as easy as it sounds.
Starmonkey
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Propaganda EXPOSED! – The Truth About Health Freedom & Big Pharma
https://go.propaganda-exposed.com/?a_bid=f9f117e3&a_aid=59c186eff2e34
https://go.propaganda-exposed.com/?a_bid=f9f117e3&a_aid=59c186eff2e34
Jack Ward
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Speaking of religion, or the lack there of, my Meditative Inquiry course I'm in (which I think Alex would dig actually) brought up the following.
I just had a discussion with my own parents who wanted to say that when push comes to shove, EVERYONE is tribal. I just point out that only happens when people are reduced to being tribal in the first place. If people honestly see each other as one and the same, you don't get wars and famine and hatred.
J
Robbedigital
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