there are no disincarnated spirits Alex :) it's everchanging and adapting consciousness based on our beliefs and non beliefs, and the spark inside us and everywhere that will always pull us back in line, even if it hurts. that's my take on it anywaygreat point! I never thought of it quite that way but now that I do you're absolutely right. both must exist... both must be true. it's really impossible to read the evidence any other way. I have a ton of respect for steve but he should have seen this long ago. it seems to me that he's created some unnecessary impediments to the disincarnate spirit research.