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I don't think people understand the real significance/reason for the prevalence of the "Show Me It." concern.

An analogy to depict it:

Plumber: "You have a dead rodent stuck in your drain line, we need break ground and replace a major section of piping."
Homeowner: "How do you know it's a rodent?"
Plumber: "Your line is backing up exactly the same way hundreds of houses in this area have been. When it started happening 12 years ago, the plumber on site dug up a line an found a dead rodent right next to the stoppage area and there was a hole in the drain line where the rodent MUST Have eaten through."
Homeowner: "So, you finding rodents at all of the houses that are backing up?"
Plumber: "No, but they're all backing up exactly the same way, so we just skip the expensive investigatory work and replace the piping."
Homeowner: "Did you ever personally see a rodent in any of the line you replaced?"
Plumber: "No."
Homeowner: "Well, surely you have some pictures of rodents your coworkers found?"
Plumber: "No. But i can get you a picture of the one the found at they first house 12 years ago."


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Another analogy to depict it:

Take a River..

A Whirpool - Exists as a result of the Shape of the river and/or water flow. You can not remove it from the river to examine it independent of the river. And if for some reason you could construct a mechanism keep it swirling while removing it , it would still no longer be the same whirlpool as existed as part of the river.

A Beaver Dam - Exists as a result of beavers. Only beavers can make a beaver dam.

A Pest Infestation - Exists as a result of climate, or surrounding conditions. similar to beaver dam.

Of these three, only the Pest can be removed and isolated from it's habitat and examined while still in it's genuine state. The Beaver Dam and the Whirlpool pool are no longer genuine once removed from their habitat.

I believe a lot of people are suspicious that viruses are more like a Whirlpool rather than a Pest Infestation. And they're very skeptical when your answer to "show me it" is something like "they did isolate the pest from it's habitat at least two separate times back in the 40's/50's or whatever"
 
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Thanks for the links. This kind of information from Lanka made me think of Wilhelm Reich, a student of S. Freud's briefly. He's a misunderstood genius IMO who had the flaw of aggressively attacking his critics. He's the creator of the Orgone Box that he reportedly used to cure various diseases. Orgone is another term for chi or qi, ether, ki, Vril, & many others as I understand it. He was known to have an exceptional ability to concentrate for very long periods uninterrupted. He found flaws in the germ theory & put little stock in micro-organisms, so he put old hay in a water container to watch it rot. He reported that as the hay disintegrated over time, he observed tiny bubbles that he called bions. These bions were animated by orgone.
It's been a long time since I've read Reich's biography, so I'm not sure about accuracy of some of his concepts as I've described them, but he was far ahead of his time & sadly died w/o much professional appreciation of his work. He emphasized healthy sexual functioning as critical to mental & physical health & happiness & was adamantly against prostitution for many reasons. Reich said the orgasm was related to the release of & charging the body w/ orgone. Robert Monroe describes his OBE of sex as a merging of two energy bodies which then share a current of energy that travels from head to toe. Orgone charging??
 
Forgive me for jumping in, but Lanka is saying IMO that viruses have never been proven to exist in a way that proves they cause illness. He says that L. Pasteur cheated in his experiments by killing unvaccinated sheep while he used healthy sheep as evidence that vaccination worked. This history of deception continued into modern times w/ Lanka's 7 points of scientific fraud, such as using pieces of electron microscopy slapped together in a process called 'alignment' to show a viral presence. What is most gratifying is his contention that proper diet, mental attitude, sanitation of living quarters, food, water, etc. had much more to do w/ health than a bogus 'virus.' He even says that materialism was a cornerstone of an effort to counter the depraved effect of the RCC's vile idea that disease was a punishment brought down on the heads of sinners by their perverted excuse for a god of love & mercy.
Kim, that's an excellent summary of the point made by Lanka in the interview.

It looks like you listened carefully, taking notes and considering the implications, while Alex commented without having watched.
 
I grew up in Mississippi and graduated from the University of New Orleans, being naive back then, and now learning about the occult history of Ochsner is another wonderful revelation in my personal apocalypse! Thanks for sharing!

However, the Ochsner story fails to falsifies what Lanka is a saying about the fraud and lies of virology. In fact, it gives support by adding context. The fact that hospitals are funded by the CIA is mind blowing for me, and confirms that there is a hidden political and economic agenda behind health care.

Viruses, as they appear in an electron microscope, come from human cells, not from outside the human body. Viruses are harmless endogenous exosomes.

What makes humans sick is poison, and there is an abundance of environmental poison, dumped carelessly and intentionally into our air, water, ground, and directly into our bodies by the very same investors who claim to care about our health as they murder us with their vaccines.

Contagion is a myth used to cover up corporate crimes against humanity.
 
I don't think people understand the real significance/reason for the prevalence of the "Show Me It." concern.

An analogy to depict it:

Plumber: "You have a dead rodent stuck in your drain line, we need break ground and replace a major section of piping."
Homeowner: "How do you know it's a rodent?"
Plumber: "Your line is backing up exactly the same way hundreds of houses in this area have been. When it started happening 12 years ago, the plumber on site dug up a line an found a dead rodent right next to the stoppage area and there was a hole in the drain line where the rodent MUST Have eaten through."
Homeowner: "So, you finding rodents at all of the houses that are backing up?"
Plumber: "No, but they're all backing up exactly the same way, so we just skip the expensive investigatory work and replace the piping."
Homeowner: "Did you ever personally see a rodent in any of the line you replaced?"
Plumber: "No."
Homeowner: "Well, surely you have some pictures of rodents your coworkers found?"
Plumber: "No. But i can get you a picture of the one the found at they first house 12 years ago."


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Another analogy to depict it:

Take a River..

A Whirpool - Exists as a result of the Shape of the river and/or water flow. You can not remove it from the river to examine it independent of the river. And if for some reason you could construct a mechanism keep it swirling while removing it , it would still no longer be the same whirlpool as existed as part of the river.

A Beaver Dam - Exists as a result of beavers. Only beavers can make a beaver dam.

A Pest Infestation - Exists as a result of climate, or surrounding conditions. similar to beaver dam.

Of these three, only the Pest can be removed and isolated from it's habitat and examined while still in it's genuine state. The Beaver Dam and the Whirlpool pool are no longer genuine once removed from their habitat.

I believe a lot of people are suspicious that viruses are more like a Whirlpool rather than a Pest Infestation. And they're very skeptical when your answer to "show me it" is something like "they did isolate the pest from it's habitat at least two separate times back in the 40's/50's or whatever"
I would change your analogy of the plumbers blaming dead rodents without proof by saying what Lanka in saying. No matter how far back you look in history, the plumbers never had a dead rodent. The drains were blocked because of poor construction and shoddy materials used, and drains were always intended to break.
 
I grew up in Mississippi and graduated from the University of New Orleans, being naive back then, and now learning about the occult history of Ochsner is another wonderful revelation in my personal apocalypse! Thanks for sharing!

However, the Ochsner story fails to falsifies what Lanka is a saying about the fraud and lies of virology. In fact, it gives support by adding context. The fact that hospitals are funded by the CIA is mind blowing for me, and confirms that there is a hidden political and economic agenda behind health care.

Viruses, as they appear in an electron microscope, come from human cells, not from outside the human body. Viruses are harmless endogenous exosomes.

What makes humans sick is poison, and there is an abundance of environmental poison, dumped carelessly and intentionally into our air, water, ground, and directly into our bodies by the very same investors who claim to care about our health as they murder us with their vaccines.

Contagion is a myth used to cover up corporate crimes against humanity.
I believe Alex has done an excellent job of showing scientists can be just as craven & corrupt as the general public, maybe more so. I thought it was quite pertinent that COVID supposedly rose out of Wuhan, which still has nauseatingly polluted air. A friend of mine taught in that area & only stayed one year. He said the ppl were constantly battling respiratory infections, suffering nasal discharge & extreme eye irritations. When I first moved to the clean air of rural Philippines after almost 5 years in Zhengzhou, China, I coughed up stuff for six months. The point is that all of the vaulted medicines we so rely on won't have much effect unless we do the other crucial healing practices. Eat properly, rest well, exercise, keep clean physically & mentally, & avoid unnecessary stress. If you get an infected leg, you still have to stay off of it & rest whether you take antibiotics or not. So you are right about the poison angle. A lot of ppl still claim we don't know what causes cancer. BS! We've known cancer's cause for 40 or more years. Bad diet, malnutrition, exposure to environmental poisons & bad habits like smoking are all well established.
 
I think [LANKA is] wrong
We have two points here. What Lanka showed and what Lanka believes. He showed virology is batshit crazy. He believes viruses are made up. Do infectious viruses exist? Yes. But its a nuanced YES. Probably has more to do with cellular communication than infection. Alex just threw the baby and the bath out with the bathwater.

Explain to me like I'm a 5 year old why:
  • Corona viruses look alot like kidney cellular debris. (I think Cowan brought this up but you didn't address it.)
  • Christine Massey et al have done work trying to get RONA isolates from worldwide.gov. They got nothing. Is it really that hard to centrifuge the virus grow medium and suck out the relevant virus weight layer?
  • Once they have the elusive isolate, where are the studies that show isolate is infectious? It is always with the contaminated growth medium.
  • Stefan Lanka, was able to make virus looking particles just by starting with kidney cells (no RONA virus needed) then starving them, and finally poisoning them with antibiotics (which is the standard protocol).
What part of this is flat earth Alex? Is virology-is-wrong-about-almost-everything a bridge too far?
 
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We have two points here. What Lanka showed and what Lanka believes. He showed virology is batshit crazy. He believes viruses are made up. Do infectious viruses exist? Yes. But its a nuanced YES. Probably has more to do with cellular communication than infection. Alex just threw the baby and the bath out with the bathwater.

Explain to me like I'm a 5 year old why:
  • Corona viruses look alot like kidney cellular debris. (I think Cowen brought this up but you didn't address it.)
  • Christine Massey et al have done work trying to get RONA isolates from worldwide.gov. They got nothing. Is it really that hard to centrifuge the virus grow medium and suck out the relevant virus weight layer?
  • Once they have the elusive isolate, where are the studies that show isolate is infectious? It is always with the contaminated growth medium.
  • Stefan Lanka, was able to make virus looking particles just by starting with kidney cells (no RONA virus needed) then starving them, and finally poisoning them with antibiotics (which is the standard protocol).
What part of this is flat earth Alex? Or is virology-is-wrong-about-almost-everything a bridge too far/outside of your overton window. You ridiculed Cowen, Lanka et al. It looks like the data you are following leads to a golden calf. Next will you be a Fauci apologist? -- Paid for by Campaign to Bolster Alex's Objectivity
The good thing about the COVID fiasco is it exposes our Swiss cheese understanding of illness. Not only that, it shows even more directly that science is a human endeavor, w/ all the warts & crusty spots that show up other places. For instance, in my early science education, I was fascinated by Ernst Haeckel's drawings of various embryos that supported his ideas, along w/ the catchy phrase, "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny." What's sad is the various criticisms of Haeckel's work were never mentioned in my textbook, not even one brief reference. It's not so much that he was a fraud, but I think it's important to bring up that science can badly miss the mark. Just like the news, ppl should be given both sides of an issue b/c that's the reality of daily life. To get a truthful view of things requires looking from many different angles.
 

Alex

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We have two points here. What Lanka showed and what Lanka believes. He showed virology is batshit crazy. He believes viruses are made up. Do infectious viruses exist? Yes. But its a nuanced YES. Probably has more to do with cellular communication than infection. Alex just threw the baby and the bath out with the bathwater.

Explain to me like I'm a 5 year old why:
  • Corona viruses look alot like kidney cellular debris. (I think Cowen brought this up but you didn't address it.)
  • Christine Massey et al have done work trying to get RONA isolates from worldwide.gov. They got nothing. Is it really that hard to centrifuge the virus grow medium and suck out the relevant virus weight layer?
  • Once they have the elusive isolate, where are the studies that show isolate is infectious? It is always with the contaminated growth medium.
  • Stefan Lanka, was able to make virus looking particles just by starting with kidney cells (no RONA virus needed) then starving them, and finally poisoning them with antibiotics (which is the standard protocol).
What part of this is flat earth Alex? Or is virology-is-wrong-about-almost-everything a bridge too far/outside of your overton window. You ridiculed Cowen, Lanka et al. It looks like the data you are following leads to a golden calf. Next will you be a Fauci apologist? -- Paid for by Campaign to Bolster Alex's Objectivity
There's a lot of science here that's way over my head so I'm trying to pick my way through.

The bottom line I keep coming back to is that it now seems quite clear that they engineered this bioweapon called the corona virus. so it seems to me that they obviously have some advanced biotech for slicing and dicing and gain-of-functioning these viruses and the associated vaccines. so it's a follow the money, follow the evildoers kind of thing.

what do you think? bioweapon? moderna had a headstart on the vaccine? gain of function? "accident"? any room for Cowan in all these questions?
 
what do you think? bioweapon? moderna had a headstart on the vaccine? gain of function? "accident"? any room for Cowan in all these questions?
I think the vaccine is the real bioweapon. Cowan is just calling foul on the play.
  • problem = virus overreaction (statistically a bad flu)
  • reaction = vaccine spike-protein / nano-god-knows-what (trust the science)
  • solution = genocide / currency reset / world corporate governance (you will own nothing and be happy)
 
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I think the vaccine is the real bioweapon. Cowen is just calling foul on the play.
  • problem = virus overreaction (statistically a bad flu)
  • reaction = vaccine spike-protein / nano-god-knows-what (trust the science)
  • solution = genocide / currency reset / world corporate governance (you will own nothing and be happy)
So what's killing so many ppl? Is COVID-19 not that nasty but something is leading to intubating ppl & respiratory problems? Seems like a lot of inflated numbers. Is there that many ppl mixed up in this scam?
 
So what's killing so many ppl? Is COVID-19 not that nasty but something is leading to intubating ppl & respiratory problems? Seems like a lot of inflated numbers. Is there that many ppl mixed up in this scam?
Covid CDC directives are the real covid killer. (see Andy's post below) But look at the excess deaths 2020 vs 2021. The vax must be much worse. Im guessing 2022 will make us cry.
Sounds like "death by ventilator". Nurses and doctors have come forward to talk about how ventilators kill people, not whatever put them on the ventilator in the first place. One nurse went on the record saying that the only person in her (NYC) hospital that survived the ventilator was so high on drugs, that their anesthesia didn't work and he was able to manually remove the ventilator tube while no one was looking.
 
Covid CDC directives are the real covid killer. (see Andy's post below) But look at the excess deaths 2020 vs 2021. The vax must be much worse. Im guessing 2022 will make us cry.
I was considering getting a Pfizer jab, but one of my wife's inlaws got vaccinated not too long ago & now he's bedridden. I guess he could be malingering, but his family is too poor for him to make do for very long w/o him. I'm just going to wait as long as I possibly can since there's practically no COVID in the Philippine boonies anyway. CNN reported there are Americans in Taiwan training their soldiers for an invasion from China. Looks like we'll be into some really serious 'distraction' from COVID soon.
 
I was considering getting a Pfizer jab, but one of my wife's inlaws got vaccinated not too long ago & now he's bedridden. I guess he could be malingering, but his family is too poor for him to make do for very long w/o him. I'm just going to wait as long as I possibly can since there's practically no COVID in the Philippine boonies anyway. CNN reported there are Americans in Taiwan training their soldiers for an invasion from China. Looks like we'll be into some really serious 'distraction' from COVID soon.
Sorry to hear about your wife’s in law.
All the kooky descriptions of our enemy are ending up true. They’re so un-creative that we’re literally about to have another war against “The Commies”.
Here’s hoping we achieve herd immunity to both viruses.
Cheers
 

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I think the vaccine is the real bioweapon.
I think this kinds side steps the question. the evidence suggests that we/they engineered a bioweapon... that's the whole gain-of-function thing.

this either happened or didn't, what's your opinion?


(and then there's the whole thing with moderna and how they got a head start and we're allowed to file a patent on the virus. I'm not an expert but you can look at whitney webb's stuff.)



If you agree that it did happen, then where does the " there is no virus, they never isolated the virus" thing fit?

Please do me / us a favor and ask cowan ( or you can invite him back on Skeptiko and I'll ask him) or ask someone else from this camp to answer the above. I'm not being cynical or snarky... I'd like to know what their answer is. I really don't think they have much of an answer... I'd like to hear it.
 
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I think this kinds side steps the question. the evidence suggests that we/they engineered a bioweapon... that's the whole gain-of-function thing.

this either happened or didn't, what's your opinion?

If you agree that it did happen, then where does the " there is no virus, they never isolated the virus" thing fit?
Virology is suspect because they fudge Koch's Postulates with contaminated samples and poor controls. Do infectious viruses exist? Yes. But its a nuanced YES. Probably has more to do with cellular communication than infection. We used to think that all bacteria was bad. We are on the same path with viruses. Doubting virus hysteria/dogma is a reasonable position.

Isolation is tricky because we have so little data thanks to government refusal to provide diverse any certified samples. (Christine Massey et al) All we have are simulated PCR based methods to reconstruct the in-silico virus. One interesting fact is that when the silico covid is run against genomic identification database software BLAST it comes back as human.

Is COVID-19 a bioweapon? Probably, but I doubt that it's worth the hysteria because transmission and lethality are inversely correlated. This is why viruses get less lethal as time passes. So a secondary non-viral vector is required to explain the genocide. The gain of function stuff, headstart stuff, and patented-genocide is probably real [more grist for the Nuremberg II mill] but ultimately a distraction because the vax is provably worse. We are designed to combat viruses, we are not designed to combat foreign injected substances.

The vaccine is the bioweapon. Look at the excess death numbers 2020 v 2021. Roughly similar amount of covid death the two years [albeit questionable data from PCR overamplification, changing PCR quidelines, coroner handbook update, remdesivir/ventilator death protocol, etc] AND strange myocarditis, bells palsy, cancer etc related death spikes in 2021 and now evidence of deteriorating immune systems (5% drop per week) in the vaxxed. Smoking gun is looking at the slideshow of deaths&infections/number-vaccinated plotted per week. Clear correlation. Also a clear correlation of drop in deaths and infections when plotted with national/regional ivermectin programs.

Keep in mind that there is some evidence of patient specific vaccine vials, saline "blanks", zipcode restricted batches, parasite contamination, and metal/nano contamination in the vax. In addition we dont have a complete 'official' ingredient list despite the faux-approval. God help you if you are more afraid of a virus than the Medical Military Industrial Complex's latest experiment on humanity.
 
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ok, so we can move past the "there is no virus" and "they never isolated the virus" stuff.
So, Alex, you're agreeing that there is no virus?

WISE TRADITIONS PODCAST EPISODE 335
Covid: There Is No Virus
with Dr. Tom Cowan
OCTOBER 18, 2021 BY HILDA LABRADA GORE
https://www.westonaprice.org/podcast/covid-there-is-no-virus/

excerpt from transcript:
The next people who agree with this are the authors of the six major papers on the isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in writing, all agreed, they never found any particle called SARS-CoV-2 in any bodily fluid of directly in any sick person. Finally, I was asked to speak to a group of lawyers and activists about this and medical doctors. They invited a guy who was twenty years, senior virologist pathologists at the Wuhan Center for Virology and then twenty years Yale pathologist, ahead of their diagnostic virology lab. He was going to tell me that I was wrong and I’m an idiot.

We said, “Is there any paper showing SARS-CoV-2 found in any bodily fluid?” He said, “No.” We said, “Why not?” He said, “There’s not enough virus to see.” Which begs the question, if there’s not enough virus to see, on what theory is it killing us all? Andy had the presence of mind to say, “What about if you mix ten people’s sputum together, would there then be enough virus to see?” He said, “No.” We asked him, “A hundred people, would you then have enough virus to see? He said, “No.” We said, “A thousand people, you mix their sputum together. Would you have enough to see?” He said, “No.”

We said, “Ten thousand people?” He said, “No.” He wouldn’t answer anymore. If you think that you can find this virus in any bodily fluid of any sick person, you are sorely mistaken. There is no published case that that has ever been done. The question is, how did they say they’ve isolated this virus? I’ve read 200 papers called the isolation of such and such a virus. Here’s how they do it. They take the fluid of a sick person. They filter it, which is not purification. They have filtered snot. They mixed that with gentamicin, amphotericin, which are two nephrotoxic antibiotics.

They mix that with fetal calf serum. They inoculated that on monkey kidney cells. The kidney cells break down. They see particles that we now know are broken down kidney cells and they say, “That’s the virus.” That nonsense, which we’ve now proven happens without the addition of any snot from anybody. We repeated the experiment, except we didn’t add snot from anybody. It broke down in exactly the same way. Proving that the breakdown of the monkey kidney cells, which is called the isolation is a farce.

It is an anti-scientific disproven bit of nonsense that has been erroneous mostly by some deception, which I don’t understand. Maybe Sally knows more about the words. Why they call that isolation and every analysis of the genome and every picture is done on that disproven snot breakdown. The other thing we did in this experiment is we added yeast RNA to this mixture of broken-down monkey kidney cells. We then aligned, meaning we found the entire genome of SARS-CoV-2, even though no virus was ever in there.

Nothing from anybody with COVID or Coronavirus or any sickness was put into this mix. Yet we were able to, using the same process they did, create the entire genome of SARS-CoV-2, proving that the genome doesn’t exist in that mixture, which they say it doesn’t. It is a manufactured genome as are all the variants, as are this nonsense of a lab created virus.

The whole idea is a misconception. It’s what happens when your tissues break down. They break down and form particles. This is an out-fection, not an infection.
 
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There's a lot of science here that's way over my head so I'm trying to pick my way through.

The bottom line I keep coming back to is that it now seems quite clear that they engineered this bioweapon called the corona virus. so it seems to me that they obviously have some advanced biotech for slicing and dicing and gain-of-functioning these viruses and the associated vaccines. so it's a follow the money, follow the evildoers kind of thing.

what do you think? bioweapon? moderna had a headstart on the vaccine? gain of function? "accident"? any room for Cowan in all these questions?
Of course, there is research and development of bioweapons. The predator class has weaponized everything, including consciousness itself, just ask Whitley Streiber.

However, contagion is a less reliable means of waging war. (since it's never been proven to ever work)

Hypodermic injections are a reliable and well tested delivery vehicle for whatever bioweapon you have in mind. They can be targeted to specific populations, with the injection batch numbers recorded and adverse reactions cataloged.

Injections go directly into the blood and bypass the human body defense systems against toxins.

My intuition lead me to Jon Rappoport's blog early in the declaration of the pandemic. His writing has served me well in seeing through the bullshit.

I read this post by Jon in February of 2020. (wow! - almost 2 years ago now)

The bio-weapon theory of the China epidemic « Jon Rappoport's Blog (nomorefakenews.com)
 
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