Grant Cameron, No Such Thing As Evil ET? |449|

I was thinking more along the lines of hypothesized angels and demons.
Are we having that conversation already? We barely know each other! I was thinking dinner and a movie first...
So, if you've looked at RS's epochs yet, or explored it in other ways, there seems to have been a time when we were less material, more ethereal. Gods walked the earth, djinn and nature spirits frolicked among us...
Even if you just take all of the mythological and religious hyperbole, they might refer to actual beings and events back in other times.
And then there's that FB interview with Clif High (one of my favorite guests Al's had, you should take a swing at him) where he's talking about the first night vision goggles with red filters they used in 'Nam and what they perceived. Very interesting.
ANYWAY, I think they belong more to the upper and lower realms and psychic energies. Don't really have a direct effect on the material plane, but can influence, like the old buddies on the shoulders whispering in your ear.
LRH claimed there were no such things through D&S, but he made some other OUTRAGEOUS claims, so... Still, he did have some good insights. Was privy to some shit. Also nutty as a fruitcake. I've read some of the D&S books but never wanted to fully embrace it and join. Peter Moon knew him directly and has written about it.
Liked some of his deeper fiction like Mission Earth and Battlefield Earth (horrendous movie, hardly even worth it for the cheese factor).
I'm picking away at Bulfinch and broadening my understanding of mythology, so I can finally take on Paradise Lost. I think Milton and even William Blake hold a lot of clues to the old world versus the new.
The other aspect of it all is humidity and electricity. Which probably relates to expanding earth and cycles.
Seems like we used to have other heightened senses and forms of technology that no longer worked after a couple hundred years ago. Tesla was attempting to reverse engineer some of it and tap directly into the earth, because the air was no longer as conductive.
 
I was thinking more along the lines of hypothesized angels and demons.
I solved my issues related to demons. I no longer am held hostage by any energetic manifestation of the demonic and I don't ask for help from angels though I thank angels when/if I perceive they have helped (knowing that I could be perceiving incorrectly).
 

Alex

Administrator
Are we having that conversation already? We barely know each other! I was thinking dinner and a movie first...
So, if you've looked at RS's epochs yet, or explored it in other ways, there seems to have been a time when we were less material, more ethereal. Gods walked the earth, djinn and nature spirits frolicked among us...
I don't find this evidence convincing... at least what I've seen of it so far. bruce fenton 780,000 seems more real.


And then there's that FB interview with Clif High (one of my favorite guests Al's had, you should take a swing at him) where he's talking about the first night vision goggles with red filters they used in 'Nam and what they perceived. Very interesting.
- I tried to find a link for this, but couldn't... did you have one handy.
- I like Clif High, but always wonder... is he like super rich from all his predictions? maybe he is but it doesn't sound like it. I mean, from a "change the world perspective" a bot that predicted markets would be the best hack.
 
I don't find this evidence convincing... at least what I've seen of it so far. bruce fenton 780,000 seems more real.



- I tried to find a link for this, but couldn't... did you have one handy.
- I like Clif High, but always wonder... is he like super rich from all his predictions? maybe he is but it doesn't sound like it. I mean, from a "change the world perspective" a bot that predicted markets would be the best hack.
46 minutes in. They talk about it another time, but don't add much
 

Alex

Administrator
46 minutes in. They talk about it another time, but don't add much
I can't call total BS on this because I don't know, but it sure as heck seems like something that would be very very easy to test/replicate. again, Clif, do the world an enormous favor and replicate this. you can fund it by your AI program that predicts the economy in the stock market.
 
I can't call total BS on this because I don't know, but it sure as heck seems like something that would be very very easy to test/replicate. again, Clif, do the world an enormous favor and replicate this. you can fund it by your AI program that predicts the economy in the stock market.
Except for the negative and adverse effects it had on people. But some are attracted to that sort of thing.
If it's for real, I'm sure some folks are monitoring it. Seemed to me like smoke and mirrors. Upsetting the soldiers and trying to get them to shoot each other.
 

Alex

Administrator
Except for the negative and adverse effects it had on people. But some are attracted to that sort of thing.
If it's for real, I'm sure some folks are monitoring it. Seemed to me like smoke and mirrors. Upsetting the soldiers and trying to get them to shoot each other.
ok, but would this really be a barrier? I mean, if these realms were so easily accessible there be all sorts of people doing it? maybe not you and I but all sorts of people... and we'd hear about it.

if you'd like to reach out to clif high on my behalf I'd be happy to have him on Skeptiko and talk about this.
 
ok, but would this really be a barrier? I mean, if these realms were so easily accessible there be all sorts of people doing it? maybe not you and I but all sorts of people... and we'd hear about it.

if you'd like to reach out to clif high on my behalf I'd be happy to have him on Skeptiko and talk about this.
Don't have contact with Clif High, although I'd be into rapping with him some.
I could try Peter Moon for you. He studied Crowley and Jack Parsons and worked alongside L Ron Hubbard back in the salad days of D&S. He met Marjorie Cameron before she passed.
He's also looked into lots of Nazi occult business. Seems to have a fairly good grasp of consciousness and correspondences. I've read all of the Sky Books library, and I dig his direct and non-polarized approach.
Then again, he might be too far out in "woo woo land", although everyone seems to be these days! I like living there, myself.
I ended up visiting his website and dropping your name and possible interest via CONTACT option. Since I don't use any social media, except this one for now.
Clif High, I mean.
That could be the angle to engage him though. And could bring in seers and occult aspects. As well as nefarious purposes for some of the more questionable technology that's been created (haa, ha ha ha ha ha!) And just what the technology in Antarctica is capable of and whether it's totally accessed and controlled. Or defences still up on some. And if in contact with any other beings. Innerterrestrial or outer terrestrial, extraterrestrial or other terrestrial.
 
Last edited:

Alex

Administrator
Don't have contact with Clif High, although I'd be into rapping with him some.
I could try Peter Moon for you. He studied Crowley and Jack Parsons and worked alongside L Ron Hubbard back in the salad days of D&S. He met Marjorie Cameron before she passed.
He's also looked into lots of Nazi occult business. Seems to have a fairly good grasp of consciousness and correspondences. I've read all of the Sky Books library, and I dig his direct and non-polarized approach.
Then again, he might be too far out in "woo woo land", although everyone seems to be these days! I like living there, myself.
I ended up visiting his website and dropping your name and possible interest via CONTACT option. Since I don't use any social media, except this one for now.
Clif High, I mean.
That could be the angle to engage him though. And could bring in seers and occult aspects. As well as nefarious purposes for some of the more questionable technology that's been created (haa, ha ha ha ha ha!) And just what the technology in Antarctica is capable of and whether it's totally accessed and controlled. Or defences still up on some. And if in contact with any other beings. Innerterrestrial or outer terrestrial, extraterrestrial or other terrestrial.
thx SM! we'll see... if it was meant to be.

Peter Moon looks interesting. let me look into him.
 
Top