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Alex: I am 100% down with Christ consciousness... and all the awesome things you say about the spiritual Jesus. the historical Jesus is another matter and is best understood as a roman psyop. not that it isn't more than that, but that's where we got to start.

Matt: The question becomes, what's the spiritual truth (not physical), is JC an actual portal to peace?

Ah yes. A "portal to peace/love/light/life/etc" seems to be an accurate description of the "effect" of JC. Right? Subjective human opinion regarding the actual man Jesus Christ is arguably irrelevant. Was He the Son of God? What does it matter? Who cares? That's irrelevant in regards to if it's truly a portal to peace or not. Are there other portals? Absolutely. Regardless, the "cause", or the "accurate assessment of the life and death of JC the human being" is much less important, if not irrelevant, than the "effect" of the JC belief. Is it not a "change your mind, change your life" scenario? Placebo or not, does this mindset cause the conscious soul to switch frequencies in their lucid dreams? Do they move away from the frequencies of darkness, death, and fear to those of peace, love and joy? If so, is that a good thing? Yep. And that the FACTS claim that this "effect" can be measured by the demonstrable behavior, or our electromagnetic disposition (electromagnetic disposition: noun - the measurement of our degree of asshole on planet Earth
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) as a human being (conscious sould) continues to navigate the planet. We change our mind, we change our lives, so in more important terms, does our mindset or frequency (switch from fear to peace, or the JC effect?) actually affect our degree of selfishness (the manifestation of evil on Earth)? Answer: Absolutely. Then why are most Christians still embarrassingly selfish? Because any belief, that in JC, the boogeyman, or any other form of dogma, is nothing but intellectual pollution unless it's accompanied with a cognitive understanding of what's unmistakably true. Or what we like to call, the FACTS.​


NDEs

Matt: "You cannot really look at findings in the field of near-death studies until you also look at the pattern of physiological and psychological after-effects because it’s the after-effects that validate the experience".​

Alex: these after effects also include a lot of stuff we all can relate to on a very human level... increased rate of divorce... depression... dark night of the soul stuff. again, not everyone experiences this but statistically it's common. I think this paints a richer and more complicated picture of ndes. I think we have to be careful about making too many assumptions about what they mean on a spiritual level.​


UFO/ET
Matt: Elevating the narrative to that of "100% acceptance it's true" is job one.​

Alex: great point!​


This is crucial. If we are to successfully defend "freedom of thought" without the use of force, we must use words. Our words establish the narrative. That narrative can no longer tolerate ignorance, especially willful ignorance (those that have access to truth but ignore it). Suggesting that all opinions are of equal merit is absurd. Those that have been proven wrong need to be identified and partitioned as such. We use the term WILF (willfully ignorant lost fool) in the FACTS because it's accurate and set's these faulty opinions aside where they rightfully belong, subjugated into what we call "the fishbowl of ignorance". Here's a perfect example: Those that deny the irrefutable UFO proof are not only ignorant, but they are also an obstacle to the pursuit of truth. Let's say that their opinions create pollution in the discourse, so they need to be eliminated. By eliminated we mean described with the righteous indignation required to be accurate and effective. In this case, those that deny the irrefutable proof of UFOs are not only ignorant, but also a danger to humanity, and they should be treated as such. Why? As we all understand, the battle for truth is first a battle for the narrative.



Evil

Matt: Try this one. We do actually know what evil is, and it's not "ignorance" as the buddhist might believe. All that is, is energy. Nothing more, nothing less. That energy has an ineffable source, the Creator. Spiritual energy is in and of itself, intelligence. So, spiritual energy and intelligence are synonymous. Within the intelligence are frequencies, love on one end, and fear on the other. Within the frequencies near fear is the intelligence of evil. The intelligence of evil manifests itself on planet Earth through human selfishness. Evil persuades a conscious soul that their life on Earth (lucid dream) is about them. Positive energy of love (maybe JC?) persuades that conscious soul that their purpose on Earth is for others. I.e., true joy only comes through giving.​

Alex: good stuff... agree... sometimes words get in the way. for example, I think what you've said here is very much an alignment with what the buddhists are saying. I hear them saying " look there's god and it's all light, all love, all the time... so this evil shit that you're focusing on and manifesting is ignorant and unnecessary... just look up... the light is there."​


Matt: Yep the Buddhists see the light. And so do most thinking human beings. It's no secret, it is just confused by inaccurate dogma. Dogma is dogma regardless if it's Christian, Atheist, Liberal, or the bully down the block, the source of the dogma is irrelevant. What's relevant is that most of the dogma is inaccurate. So, how do we navigate and hopefully someday eliminate the dogma madness? Unless an elevated narrative, that has a foundation of self-evident truth, and requires cognitive thought, is established (I.e., the FACTS), all of humanity will continue to be immersed in the current cesspool of confusion exacerbated by selfish deception. Without protecting truth by elevating the narrative, identifying, exposing, and quarantining ignorance, humanity will never reach the surface, or the light of truth, but rather will remain in the sunken abiss of deception. Just ask George Orwell. If it continues, it doesn't end well. Right? We need the "light of truth" to prevail. Why? It could be Humanity's Last Hope.


Let's get you on skeptiko to continue this dialog.​
 
Listening to Owen Benjamin right now. I have a feeling that other than the FE stuff, we will look back in 20 years and say Owen Benjamin was acting the way we all should be acting if we truly believe in freedom and a loving God. Meaning we shouldn't ever play along with the idea that it's okay to make fun of Mexican/Asian/White, but not okay to make fun of Black/Jew. I was sent a clip of Owen pointing out that OF COURSE Elon Musk supports the Canadian Truckers causing damage to the economy right when hes about to release driverless trucks...
But back to spirituality, the part of Jesus I think Alex overlooks is that he is the ultimate disintermediation. This is why i think he's a real person who's story got co-opted after the fact. Jesus came in at a time when the established church deemed forgivenss only possible if you pay money to a "holy man" in a dress.
Jesus said you are already forgiven! You already have direct access with no need for intermediation!
For that reason, I'm confident that the story was added to and re-directed, rather than concocted. Otherwise why would they have just randomly sprinkled all the disintermediation stuff in there?
 
he is the ultimate disintermediation. This is why i think he's a real person

we're just playing around here... I'm mean, yr talking about yr connection to god... nothing is higher more pure that... I salute you.

re the above... it sounds kinda self-contradictory. I don't think you/I don't need anyone... you/I and god are one... you/I and jesus are one... nothing in between.
 
we're just playing around here... I'm mean, yr talking about yr connection to god... nothing is higher more pure that... I salute you.

re the above... it sounds kinda self-contradictory. I don't think you/I don't need anyone... you/I and god are one... you/I and jesus are one... nothing in between.

I meant to paint Jesus as more of a Buddha situation; Like if all those miracles and God-incarnate claims had been added to Buddha after he died. Those extra bells and whistles wouldn't cancel the truths he founded, but rather it would muddy them.
The difference would be that Jesus pointed to a Heavenly Father being. He said "I am the way". And the Dogmatists will say that means you have to wear certain cloths or pray on a certain day.
 
I have an interview coming up with Matt Lambeau who's written the audaciously titled:
The FACTS: Humanity's Last Hope

Matt has offered Skeptiko listeners a free copy of the book. Go to: https://selfishtruth.com/

I have had an awesome ongoing email dialogue with Matt. I'll continue it here.

Alex. I am truly honored to be invited into this forum. It is the world's true thinkers, like those in this forum, that have paved the way to make a book like the FACTS possible. Why? The FACTS is simply a research project gathering that which you brilliant minds have already discovered and proven, then compiling that information in a simplified format that will challenge the intellectual, while rescuing the ignorant. Simple stuff here. Brilliant minds discover and prove, then I research, compile/prioritize, then ultimately simplify it for humanity's ocean of knuckleheads like me.

Yes. Please request a free copy of the FACTS - Humanity's Last Hope PDF at SelfishTruth.com. Or, just give me an address and I'll send you a free paperback. I am truly humbled that any of the brilliant minds on this forum would take the time to even consider that of which I've written. And on behalf of CS Lewis, George Orwell (based on their writings), and the entire Free World, we thank ALL of you for your contribution to the pursuit of that which is unmistakably true.

It is truly an honor to be here. Let's give this a go. We got this!

Keep the faith!

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Alex. I am truly honored to be invited into this forum. It is the world's true thinkers, like those in this forum, that have paved the way to make a book like the FACTS possible. Why? The FACTS is simply a research project gathering that which you brilliant minds have already discovered and proven, then compiling that information in a simplified format that will challenge the intellectual, while rescuing the ignorant. Simple stuff here. Brilliant minds discover and prove, then I research, compile/prioritize, then ultimately simplify it for humanity's ocean of knuckleheads like me.

Yes. Please request a free copy of the FACTS - Humanity's Last Hope PDF at SelfishTruth.com. Or, just give me an address and I'll send you a free paperback. I am truly humbled that any of the brilliant minds on this forum would take the time to even consider that of which I've written. And on behalf of CS Lewis, George Orwell (based on their writings), and the entire Free World, we thank ALL of you for your contribution to the pursuit of that which is unmistakably true.

It is truly an honor to be here. Let's give this a go. We got this!

Keep the faith!

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Alas, I don't like reading too much on a screen, and it takes a LOT to make an impression on me. Maybe not quite as much as it's taking to wake up humanity, but... I probably jive on a fundamental level.
 
I've been having a great email exchange with Matt. Here's some of it:
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I did manage to get through about half of the book. there's some absolutely uniquely amazing stuff there. Next-Destination Experience!!! this is brilliant!

Here are some notes from my reading. please forgive the grammar and the Matt Lambeau style bravado :)

-- all the stuff in the physics chapter is off. atheistic scientists who believe that we are all biological robots in a meaningless universe are wrong. their speculations about big bang and all the rest of that stuff deserves a rethink because scientific experimentation has proven what max planck said all along.

Max Planck: “I regard consciousness as fundamental…”
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."


-- Fact: SpaceTime continuum... another typo :) ET contact experience is outside of space time... so is lots of other stuff. Dr. Dean Radin has shown some of this stuff experimentally.

-- Page 131, the next step in quantum evolution is artificial intelligence. naaa... I studied this a lot in school.


-- The Bible is a non-starter. It's wackiness is self-evident. it's foolishness is self-evident. it's inconsistent, self-contradictory nature is self-evident.

David Icke can be hit or miss but he was right about this one -- "religion is the greatest brainwashing trick ever invented."

-- There's no fall back position for this. there's no "kind of right." there's only Jesus saying "I came to fulfill all that crazy stuff in the Old testament." There's only Josephus (the Jewish historian and author of a lot of the source material for the new testament) saying, "Caesar is the Messiah... and I'm not saying that just because they gave me a villa in Rome"

-- Spiritual truth is self-evident. Religious documents that contradict this expose themselves as fraudulent attempts to manipulate and control. What business does the Bible have in coming between me and my spiritual experience. it has zero authority. the fact I was brainwashed-to-believe since infancy doesn't give the bible authority over me.

-- given all this you might want to lighten up on Bill Mahr just a bit :)
 
I've been having a great email exchange with Matt. Here's some of it:
===

I did manage to get through about half of the book. there's some absolutely uniquely amazing stuff there. Next-Destination Experience!!! this is brilliant!

Here are some notes from my reading. please forgive the grammar and the Matt Lambeau style bravado :)

-- all the stuff in the physics chapter is off. atheistic scientists who believe that we are all biological robots in a meaningless universe are wrong. their speculations about big bang and all the rest of that stuff deserves a rethink because scientific experimentation has proven what max planck said all along.

Max Planck: “I regard consciousness as fundamental…”
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."


-- Fact: SpaceTime continuum... another typo :) ET contact experience is outside of space time... so is lots of other stuff. Dr. Dean Radin has shown some of this stuff experimentally.

-- Page 131, the next step in quantum evolution is artificial intelligence. naaa... I studied this a lot in school.


-- The Bible is a non-starter. It's wackiness is self-evident. it's foolishness is self-evident. it's inconsistent, self-contradictory nature is self-evident.

David Icke can be hit or miss but he was right about this one -- "religion is the greatest brainwashing trick ever invented."

-- There's no fall back position for this. there's no "kind of right." there's only Jesus saying "I came to fulfill all that crazy stuff in the Old testament." There's only Josephus (the Jewish historian and author of a lot of the source material for the new testament) saying, "Caesar is the Messiah... and I'm not saying that just because they gave me a villa in Rome"

-- Spiritual truth is self-evident. Religious documents that contradict this expose themselves as fraudulent attempts to manipulate and control. What business does the Bible have in coming between me and my spiritual experience. it has zero authority. the fact I was brainwashed-to-believe since infancy doesn't give the bible authority over me.

-- given all this you might want to lighten up on Bill Mahr just a bit :)
Sounds good. Curious about "unique"...
I've been reading Conor MacDari and already developed the notion that Catholicism and Christianity stole the "religion" from something older which RESPECTED and venerated the feminine and lived in harmony with nature and "her" bounty.
It took the STURCH almost 1000 years to beat down Ireland and the remnants of that powerful way of life. Then steal the buildings and twist the stories and histories to suit their needs.
That stuff in "the bible" didn't even happen where it is supposed to. It happened in western Europe.
 
I've been having a great email exchange with Matt. Here's some of it:
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Alex, this is a quick stab at some of this... Thank you sir!

I did manage to get through about half of the book. there's some absolutely uniquely amazing stuff there. Next-Destination Experience!!! this is brilliant! Amigo. Thank you for starting the book. I am truly honored. If you "finish reading the FACTS", you and I will have now listened to the same song. We'll be singing from the same hymnal, so to speak. Once that happens, we (all of humanity) can work together to make sure the entire hymnal has all the right songs. We improve the songs in this hymnal to sing truth, only self-evident truth. The search for proof of what's unmistakably true requires the input of ALL HUMAN BEINGS. Why? It's the combined wisdom of all humanity (the leaves) that nourish the Tree of Life.

  • Side note: Here's the fourth conscious soul to join the Free World: #4 "It All Comes True".
Should we take three minutes and listen to their plight? Would it be selfish of us if we didn't? Absolutely. Did we listen to the plight of the first three?

Oh, and you should "finish reading the FACTS" because it's better than Harry Potter. We think the make-believe world of Harry Potter is amazing, wait until we (the rest of humanity) understand the fucking insanity of real world. Harry Potter might be the most popular book of all time, but the FACTS are the most important. Why? The FACTS (the collection and deciphering and discernment of self-evident truths) is arguably the most important book written since the bible, and the FACTS (the collection and deciphering and discernment of self-evident truths) might just be humanity's last hope.

All kidding aside, I am truly honored Alex that you have taken your valuable time to consider where we am going with this. Truly honored.

Here are some notes from my reading. please forgive the grammar and the Matt Lambeau style bravado :)

-- all the stuff in the physics chapter is off. Understood. You are correct. Thank goodness I am just the researcher, the collector of the data. It's the brilliant minds on planet Earth that lead me to these finds. So, let's talk to the experts (YOU!), and then let's modify the FACTS pertaining to this topic (physics chapter) from what is currently written, (I'm just the researcher), from that which is inaccurate, to that which is unmistakably accurate or true. This is where the brilliant minds in the forum work together to get the Tree of Life to be the most accurate assessment of self-evident truth, or what's unmistakably correct, in the history of the World.

atheistic scientists who believe that we are all biological robots in a meaningless universe are wrong. Correct, they're wrong. Or at least the evidence to date proves them wrong. To the best of my understanding (Subjective truth based on my own individual human experiences), NDEs prove that the fabric of all that is, is one of unconditional love and forgiveness. There is unmistakably benevolent design because billions have already experienced it. However, that doesn't mean we discount the other options. Those other options become the twigs of "human disagreement" on the Tree of Life. All of humanity then becomes the leaves of the tree where we ALL reach for nourishment in deciphering what is unmistakably true.

their speculations about big bang and all the rest of that stuff deserves a rethink because scientific experimentation has proven max planck said all along. Absolutely, a "rethink" is required about it all. However, once that rethink is over, humanity must follow the evidence with an impartial mind, or a blatant disregard for ALL human dogma, until the information, data, experience, is whittled down, or the screws are tightened, to what's unmistakably true, or self-evidently true, or what the Free World calls, a FACT.

It's all rather obvious. First, we find, gather, decipher, then collect that which is unmistakably true. Next, we organize and simplify that information for all of humanity (Tree of Life). Finally, we protect it with our lives because the Free World cannot exist without it.

See... simple. Wink, wink.

Keep the faith! We got this!

I'll finish the rest soon... :)



Max Planck: “I regard consciousness as fundamental…”



-- Fact: SpaceTime continuum... another typo :) ET contact experience is outside of space time... so is lots of other stuff. Dr. Dean Radin has shown some of this stuff experimentally.

-- Page 131, the next step in quantum evolution is artificial intelligence. naaa... I studied this a lot in school.


-- The Bible is a non-starter. It's wackiness is self-evident. it's foolishness is self-evident. it's inconsistent, self-contradictory nature is self-evident.

David Icke can be hit or miss but he was right about this one -- "religion is the greatest brainwashing trick ever invented."

-- There's no fall back position for this. there's no "kind of right." there's only Jesus saying "I came to fulfill all that crazy stuff in the Old testament." There's only Josephus (the Jewish historian and author of a lot of the source material for the new testament) saying, "Caesar is the Messiah... and I'm not saying that just because they gave me a villa in Rome"

-- Spiritual truth is self-evident. Religious documents that contradict this expose themselves as fraudulent attempts to manipulate and control. What business does the Bible have in coming between me and my spiritual experience. it has zero authority. the fact I was brainwashed-to-believe since infancy doesn't give the bible authority over me.

-- given all this you might want to lighten up on Bill Mahr just a bit :)

I've been having a great email exchange with Matt. Here's some of it:
===

I did manage to get through about half of the book. there's some absolutely uniquely amazing stuff there. Next-Destination Experience!!! this is brilliant!

Here are some notes from my reading. please forgive the grammar and the Matt Lambeau style bravado :)

-- all the stuff in the physics chapter is off. atheistic scientists who believe that we are all biological robots in a meaningless universe are wrong. their speculations about big bang and all the rest of that stuff deserves a rethink because scientific experimentation has proven what max planck said all along.

Max Planck: “I regard consciousness as fundamental…”
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."


-- Fact: SpaceTime continuum... another typo :) ET contact experience is outside of space time... so is lots of other stuff. Dr. Dean Radin has shown some of this stuff experimentally.

-- Page 131, the next step in quantum evolution is artificial intelligence. naaa... I studied this a lot in school.


-- The Bible is a non-starter. It's wackiness is self-evident. it's foolishness is self-evident. it's inconsistent, self-contradictory nature is self-evident.

David Icke can be hit or miss but he was right about this one -- "religion is the greatest brainwashing trick ever invented."

-- There's no fall back position for this. there's no "kind of right." there's only Jesus saying "I came to fulfill all that crazy stuff in the Old testament." There's only Josephus (the Jewish historian and author of a lot of the source material for the new testament) saying, "Caesar is the Messiah... and I'm not saying that just because they gave me a villa in Rome"

-- Spiritual truth is self-evident. Religious documents that contradict this expose themselves as fraudulent attempts to manipulate and control. What business does the Bible have in coming between me and my spiritual experience. it has zero authority. the fact I was brainwashed-to-believe since infancy doesn't give the bible authority over me.

-- given all this you might want to lighten up on Bill Mahr just a bit :)
 
Conor MacDari claiming earlier "pagan" (country) origin of bible. And how "Rome" and Britain concocted and forged that entire mess and MADE IT ALL UP in some other place and people.
 

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come on folks... love him (like me) or hate him, this is some very cool, original thinking.

Alex - Below the next four conscious souls to join the Free World... Should we be humble, click the links, and take 3 minutes each to listen to their plight? Of course we should. Why? There is self-evident truth revealed within their music describing unique human plight. Why are there only 8 conscious souls currently in the Free World? Answer: Willful Ignorance. Humanity as a whole has yet to pass the litmus test between ignorant and informed. WILFs are not allowed in the Free World.

Latest Conscious Souls

#4 "It All Comes True"
#5 Get a Boat
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#6 Your Life is Now.
#7 If Today was Your Last Day.
#8
April 29, 1992 (Miami)

Speaking of "love him or hate him". George Orwell "The further society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those who speak it". Enough said. I'm prepared to be hated.

Keep the faith my good friend! We got this!

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