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Yeah I had to dig farther. I don't approve of any sexualization of children.
Well, keep that to yourself. And don't tell Vortex. Or Reddit. Or 4chan.
Edit: Or, dare I say it.... Skep...ti...ko.
Yeah I had to dig farther. I don't approve of any sexualization of children.
Really? 4chan? Maybe I'm thinking of /pol/, which I believe is actually 8chan, 8chan hates 4chan. But I thought both were pretty conservative.Well, keep that to yourself. And don't tell Vortex. Or Reddit. Or 4chan.
Edit: Or, dare I say it.... Skep...ti...ko.
Or, dare I say it.... Skep...ti...ko.
Really? 4chan? Maybe I'm thinking of /pol/, which I believe is actually 8chan, 8chan hates 4chan. But I thought both were pretty conservative.
So it's 8chan>4chan>Voat>Reddit
Ever been on Voat? It has a rep for being a Nazi safehaven (lol!) and yeah, there's some pretty despicable shit on there, but it's incredibly tolerant of most views. Little moderation, kind of like Reddit in the old days. You have to have a thick skin. Snowflakes need not apply. I go there to both toughen myself up and experience what NOT to be. But there's decent people too.
They're pretty damned intolerant of any kind of child sexualization though. Nazis have their limits, lol!
Living proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Those who know the most are the most humble.I [recall] Shermer also claimed to be a scientist in a debate with Sheldrake but AFAICTell he just has a bachelor's in psychology so even less qualified than Nye.
I guess they think skeptical arrogance is a substitute for academia. ;)
Living proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Those who know the most are the most humble.
I'll have to await your promised paper as your post had the opposite effect of clarifying what you are trying to accomplish. I'm more flabbergasted now than before I read your response. I was happily oppressed as a child. My children have been happily oppressed during their childhoods. Animals of all shapes, colors, and varieties "oppress" their children.Since children nowadays are effectively the most oppressed and supervised social group, being almost totally dependent on decisions of their adult superiors, being almost completely deprived of lifetime uncontrolled by them, be they their parents or Child Protection Service (CPS) agents. Our current age politics are totalitarian.
I'm curious, how much have you studied child development?And... I suppose, I have to start working on my long-promised big essay on child liberation. To limit myself by short texts will not help.
Well, I haven't initiated it, really - both here and on a previous thread I only strarted talking about it when the topics of "sexual abuse", "sexualisation of children" etc. became the center of discussion. I expressed my opinion - highly controversial, I agree - about it, yet I never tried to push it anywhere except the two discussions where it surfaced before my entry.
I suspect that an adult woman who was sadistically raped also would suffer - both in a process and afterwards. Yet the fact that some adult women are raped and suffer the consequences does not mean that ALL participation in sexual activity is harmful for adult women.
This is undeniable that some children are raped by adults, and suffer because of it. But it does not mean that ANY sexual contact between adults and children is a harmful rape.
But now I will really leave this topic for the time being. Discussing it is a best way to make a modern Western(ised) man emotionally distressed, so I suppose everyone need to calm down.
Until I'm ready, I will no longer respond here. Let's move to something else, for now.
The couple’s prosecution in 1992 was part of a wave of cases across the country amid an episode of mass hysteria known as the Satanic Panic. Beginning in the 1980s, accusations flew that the childcare industry had been infiltrated by bands of Satanists hell-bent on brainwashing and sexually abusing young children. The Kellers’ exoneration closes a decadeslong chapter of profound injustice for a couple that paid an exceptionally high price for the credulousness of local law enforcement.
“I still can’t believe it’s happening,” Fran, now 67, said on Tuesday morning while driving with her husband to sign the legal paperwork. She’s still wary; they’ve been waiting for this day for so long she isn’t yet sure it is real. “I guess I’m just tired of having to hang on for so long.”
Dan, 75, is slightly more upbeat — he always thought this day would come. He recalled a sleepless night in prison in 1995 when he said he heard God. “He said, ‘You’re going home, but I have some things to sort through first.’” Dan said he slept soundly that night. “We have to try to not have doubt in our life.”
The exoneration is the first for the nascent conviction integrity unit of the Travis County District Attorney’s Office under the new DA, Margaret Moore. Court documents filed Tuesday announced that there is “no credible evidence” against the Kellers. Moore said she personally reviewed the case and believes exoneration “to be a just outcome.”
Fran and Dan Keller were each sentenced to 48 years in prison for the alleged sexual assault of a 3-year-old girl who was an occasional drop-in at their home daycare center on the rural outskirts of Austin. The child initially accused Dan of spanking her “like daddy” used to, but under intense and repeated questioning by her mother and a therapist, the story morphed to include claims of rape and orgies involving children. From there, the number of children alleging abuse increased and the accusations grew even more lurid and confounding: The Kellers had sacrificed babies; they held ceremonies in a local graveyard; they put blood in the children’s Kool-Aid; Fran cut off the arm of a gorilla in a local park; they flew the children to Mexico to be sexually assaulted by military officials.
When I began reinvestigating the case in 2008 for the Austin Chronicle, I was stunned to learn that police and prosecutors who had worked the case back in the early ’90s still believed some of the most outrageous allegations leveled against the Kellers. The Austin Police Department refused to release its investigative report on the case, forcing the Chronicle to take the agency to court. We ultimately won the right to full, unredacted access.
After reading the report, it was not hard to understand why the department had fought to keep it secret. It was an ALL-CAPS, run-on-sentence fever dream full of breathless accusations and absent any actual investigation that could prove or disprove the claims. On multiple occasions, the lead investigator took the girl who accused the Kellers to lunch at McDonald’s before setting out for drives in the neighborhood where she would point out locations: Yes, she had been abused there; yes, she recognized the cemetery where the Kellers had killed and buried babies; yes, many of the residents of the quiet neighborhood were in on the hi-jinx. Not once did investigators question the child’s statements.
My reinvestigation of the Keller case turned up evidence that would ultimately lead to their release from prison. The only vaguely physical evidence that tied the couple to any wrongdoing was the testimony of a young emergency room doctor named Michael Mouw, who had examined the girl and concluded there was damage to her vaginal area that could be the result of sexual abuse. As it turned out, the doctor was wrong. Mouw told me that not long after the Kellers were convicted, he attended a medical conference where he learned that what he had interpreted as signs of abuse were nothing more than a normal variant of female genitalia.
Even though there were spots in this interview which were solid enough, there was a definite undertone that I didn't gel with
I am not a fan of Jay's perspective; the notion that atheists are secret or inadvertent Luciferians is in my opinion hogwash
That kind of christian paranoia is the sort of mindset that leads to witch burnings and the like - very regressive and unhealthy
There may be satanists under every rock, but thus far in my lifetime I havent come across them; so I am not going to look for them or fear them
In my opinion LaVey et al are nothing but a lunatic fringe
At the same time there are many core beliefs associated with modern atheistic materialistic thinking which are in my opinion evil and dangerous and demonstrably false (in my mind)
NateC on the first page mentions two of them - social Darwinism and radical individualism
These modern forms of anarchism are two core beliefs which have poisoned many Western minds
They get in through media indoctrination; in other words non-consciously; and are extremely common and taken for granted by many Western people today
They underlie the dominant economic globalist paradigm of neoliberalism with which we have all been systematically indoctrinated over the past few decades
You do not have to go to satanic temples and dress up in luciferian drag to have these beliefs in your mind
These ideas have nothing to do with lucifer or satan; they are core beliefs of an economic paradigm designed to justify the greed and global domination of private Capital
There is a tendency to dramatize all this stuff and dress it up in fantastic tales and myths
Icke's 7 foot shape-shifting lizards; or Goode's blue savior aliens; or luciferian cabals and blood sacrifices at midnight in your local church, or in secret passages beneath hyde Park
and so on