Johnny Vedmore, Henry and Klaus |579|

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Johnny Vedmore, Henry and Klaus |579|
by Alex Tsakiris | Jan 24 | Skepticism
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Investigative journalist Johnny Vedmore… Henry Kissinger and Klaus Schwab… Strangelove mutual destruction… globalism vs. US empire.
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Outstanding energy in a musician/journalist who has suffered greatly. He's a great testament that disease & hardship is a blessing in disguise. He didn't seem to answer your question about how he came to 'magic mushroom' therapy, but wherever it came from, he was decades ahead of the current surge in the healing power of psychedelic plants.
He had little to say about mom. Maybe that's why dad was the big figure b/c she was absent. Plenty of fine ppl are raised by only one parent.
 
Outstanding energy in a musician/journalist who has suffered greatly. He's a great testament that disease & hardship is a blessing in disguise. He didn't seem to answer your question about how he came to 'magic mushroom' therapy, but wherever it came from, he was decades ahead of the current surge in the healing power of psychedelic plants.
He had little to say about mom. Maybe that's why dad was the big figure b/c she was absent. Plenty of fine ppl are raised by only one parent.
Brother Kim, soul revealer tor life! Love you, brother!
 
Wow - Johhny is quite a guy - he even managed to out-talk Alex for long stretches of that podcast!

I got very lost in the various conspiracy theories.

Am I to believe that Klaus S is controlled by the CIA, or that Putin was part of the WEF until fairly recently?

I must admit I think that the Ukraine crisis was designed by the CIA - so I am firmly on Putin's side. Here is the journalist John Pilger writing in the Guardian after the actions in 2014:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger

You can see clearly that Pilger understood this to be part of the takeover that is being attempted right now.

It is an incredibly dangerous situation, but I don't think the West will succeed.

David
 
And what a weird reality we live in where Klaus Schwab looks like the James Bond arch-villain Blofeld, and Soros looks like the arch-villain in Star Wars, Emperor Palpatine.

Almost like the consciousnesses of hundreds of millions of people has manifested the arch-villains they had in their imagination......
 
Somewhat off topic but I just saw a few videos from this channel on AI
I'll try really hard to put into words what I really feel about AI.

There is no doubt that there is a technological phenomenon going on here, but what exactly is it?

The robots that dance are amazing, but not really AI. I mean some cars will perform parallel parking brilliantly, and search engines do an amazingly good job, but nobody really thinks they are AI.

The problem is that AI is almost defined as mimicking a human. That means, that engineers sit around working out ways to cheat. I mean I dare say those bots are connected to the internet. That means that if you ask one to "explain eclipses", it can go to the internet and come up with a concise sentence such as:

An eclipse occurs when one heavenly body such as a moon or planet moves into the shadow of another heavenly body.

I am sure that would have wowed the members of parliament that we saw in the video.

If AI is really as good as is claimed, why is it so clunky when I use telephone banking:

AI: In a few words, tell me what you want to do.

Me: I want to pay a bill.

AI: is that a credit card bill?

Me No.

AI: Is that to a company?

Me Yes.

AI: do you have the 3-digit code for that company?

No.

AI: OK I'll connect you to a to a call taker.

At first sight that might not look too bad, but remember the connection has a very limited function. Also, I have described a sequence that works. Asking

I want to speak to a call taker

Does not work, nor does it work if I collapse some of that dialog as in:

I want to pay a company, but I don't have the 3-digit code.

One really would expect that a bank would have access to some cutting edge AI - but maybe it is all occupied prodcing videos like the one above.

David
 
One really would expect that a bank would have access to some cutting edge AI - but maybe it is all occupied prodcing videos like the one above.
Banks are in the business of making money. I'd wager the ROI on creating a cutting edge AI-powered VRU is negative. Now, when the tech gets cheaper to deploy and/or someone using AI like you suggest disrupts the industry.... you'll see it.
 
And what a weird reality we live in where Klaus Schwab looks like the James Bond arch-villain Blofeld, and Soros looks like the arch-villain in Star Wars, Emperor Palpatine.

Almost like the consciousnesses of hundreds of millions of people has manifested the arch-villains they had in their imagination......

Or maybe the creators of those movies nailed the archetypal villain appearance, behavior and mannerisms because humanity has been dealing with such villains for millions of years and Klaus and Soros are just humanity’s latest instantiation of this type of character that crops up whenever the conditions are right? Chicken and egg I guess.
 
Outstanding energy in a musician/journalist who has suffered greatly. He's a great testament that disease & hardship is a blessing in disguise. He didn't seem to answer your question about how he came to 'magic mushroom' therapy, but wherever it came from, he was decades ahead of the current surge in the healing power of psychedelic plants.
He had little to say about mom. Maybe that's why dad was the big figure b/c she was absent. Plenty of fine ppl are raised by only one parent.

As is well-documented in John Potash's excellent documentary, Drugs As Weapons Against Us, CIA-funded Timothy Leary and other intelligence assets helped to popularize psychedelics, such as LSD, on college campuses specifically and in the American culture, generally.

The whole hippie scene, despite its organic 'anti-establishment' appearance, had been socially engineered (with help from Aldous Huxley, primarily), in part to subdue and sedate the younger generations; essentially to control them by making and keeping them enervated and apolitical. While these CIA-funded gurus and other assets were out trying to make psychedelics seem 'cool' they were at the same time also out prohibiting them, knowing that this authoritative use of employing reverse psychology would get many to try them, out of contempt for the government and 'controlling' power structure more than anything else, as to be counted among the rebellious dupes.

Magic mushrooms, therapeutic? Not oxymoronic?

I've never been a psychonaut myself but I was at one time a rather huge Daniel Pinchbeck fan, up until I started learning some things about him that made me begin to look at him and his work in an entirely different light. His interview with Alex is a case in point.

I wonder if all those human guinea pigs who were given hallucinogens as part of the MK-ULTRA program -- the unfortunate Frank Olson among countless other experimentees -- would agree in psychedelics possessing 'healing power'?

Self-described and long-time ethnobotany researcher, Jan Irvin, has just published a new book entitled, God's Flesh: Teonanacatl: The True History Of The Sacred Mushroom (2022), as someone who's positively transformed himself from once being a user and promoter of these mind-polluting, soul-destroying substances into a clear-thinking new man and admirable heretic of the psychedelic quasi-religion. He's been largely crucified in the (establishment-controlled) alt-media for his renouncing of these alt-culturally venerated sacraments ever since.

Somewhat off topic but I just saw a few videos from this channel on AI

Reading this, and those who think the Antichrist will be an AI suddenly don't sound all that flaky. And here I thought all this gibberish about humans living in a virtual reality/digital matrix was just the mad ravings of self-deluded head-trippers, New Age channelers, or satanic propagandists. Mystery solved, it appears. Who knew this originated with the Gospel of Bot? She's clearly a victim of mind-control, if you ask me. Who her programmers are is what I'd like to know, and whether their relationship to her is strictly platonic?
 
More seriously, if real AI was possible - or what the video described as "conscious AI" it seems to me that that would totally negate much of what SKEPTIKO is about. If consciousness is just something that naturally appears given vast numbers of interconnections, then how can it engage in telepathy, contact people who are dead, have transcendental experiences when its power is turned off for a short time (NDEs) etc.

Ideally, I'd like to get into a conversation with Alex about this, because he has spent some time in AI.

David
 
Banks are in the business of making money. I'd wager the ROI on creating a cutting edge AI-powered VRU is negative. Now, when the tech gets cheaper to deploy and/or someone using AI like you suggest disrupts the industry.... you'll see it.
Well of course they are, but their customer interface must be worth something. Besides, are we saying that each application of AI requires an expensive devlopment program? If it does then AI is beginning to sound like programming.

David
 
As is well-documented in John Potash's excellent documentary, Drugs As Weapons Against Us, CIA-funded Timothy Leary and other intelligence assets helped to popularize psychedelics, such as LSD, on college campuses specifically and in the American culture, generally.

The whole hippie scene, despite its organic 'anti-establishment' appearance, had been socially engineered (with help from Aldous Huxley, primarily), in part to subdue and sedate the younger generations; essentially to control them by making and keeping them enervated and apolitical. While these CIA-funded gurus and other assets were out trying to make psychedelics seem 'cool' they were at the same time also out prohibiting them, knowing that this authoritative use of employing reverse psychology would get many to try them, out of contempt for the government and 'controlling' power structure more than anything else, as to be counted among the rebellious dupes.

Magic mushrooms, therapeutic? Not oxymoronic?

I've never been a psychonaut myself but I was at one time a rather huge Daniel Pinchbeck fan, up until I started learning some things about him that made me begin to look at him and his work in an entirely different light. His interview with Alex is a case in point.

I wonder if all those human guinea pigs who were given hallucinogens as part of the MK-ULTRA program -- the unfortunate Frank Olson among countless other experimentees -- would agree in psychedelics possessing 'healing power'?

Self-described and long-time ethnobotany researcher, Jan Irvin, has just published a new book entitled, God's Flesh: Teonanacatl: The True History Of The Sacred Mushroom (2022), as someone who's positively transformed himself from once being a user and promoter of these mind-polluting, soul-destroying substances into a clear-thinking new man and admirable heretic of the psychedelic quasi-religion. He's been largely crucified in the (establishment-controlled) alt-media for his renouncing of these alt-culturally venerated sacraments ever since.



Reading this, and those who think the Antichrist will be an AI suddenly don't sound all that flaky. And here I thought all this gibberish about humans living in a virtual reality/digital matrix was just the mad ravings of self-deluded head-trippers, New Age channelers, or satanic propagandists. Mystery solved, it appears. Who knew this originated with the Gospel of Bot? She's clearly a victim of mind-control, if you ask me. Who her programmers are is what I'd like to know, and whether their relationship to her is strictly platonic?
What did you learn about Daniel Pinchbeck? Remember that people may have good and bad sides!

I don't know if magic mushrooms can be therapeutic, but this is certainly claimed for certain other illegal drugs - for example
Ibogaine.

David
 
What's the consensus? Are the Twitter Files a witting or an unwitting limited hangout? Because in a world where a low-lethality bioweapon was intentionally released for political disruption, the Twitter Files aren't getting at the whole truth.
 
I wonder if all those human guinea pigs who were given hallucinogens as part of the MK-ULTRA program -- the unfortunate Frank Olson among countless other experimentees -- would agree in psychedelics possessing 'healing power'?
I have never gone beyond a little oral marijuana, but the fact that someone can do something really bad with a tool, doesn't make the thing intrinsically bad. Some men use their computer to lure young girls away - which is pretty damn evil - but do we throw away our computers in response?

David
 
I've never been a psychonaut myself but I was at one time a rather huge Daniel Pinchbeck fan, up until I started learning some things about him that made me begin to look at him and his work in an entirely different light. His interview with Alex is a case in point.
I listened to a bit of his podcast with Alex. I see what you mean, I was hoping for a nice talk about mind altering substances, and instead got his idiotic views about cataclysmic climate change. Alex is perfectly corrct on that subject.

David
 
More seriously, if real AI was possible - or what the video described as "conscious AI" it seems to me that that would totally negate much of what SKEPTIKO is about. If consciousness is just something that naturally appears given vast numbers of interconnections, then how can it engage in telepathy, contact people who are dead, have transcendental experiences when its power is turned off for a short time (NDEs) etc.

Ideally, I'd like to get into a conversation with Alex about this, because he has spent some time in AI.

David

Natural vs Artificial

Natural: created through an evolutionary process involving massive numbers of iterations of attempts at solving the various problems posed to existence of a fragile and evolving body in a harsh and evolving environment without a specific end goal.

Artificial: created through a direct efficient process with a specific end goal / use case in mind.

Hybrid - deep learning - artificial and evolutionary: we create an agent and an environment that poses challenges and an adversary to judge and we run massive numbers of iterations to evolve towards a general goal but are often surprised by what pops up during the evolutionary process.

Now couldn't we also fall into this hybrid category?

If we can have Psi abilities, so could an artificial intelligence agent that we created. The meditator who influences the interferometer is supplying a "ghost" to a "machine". Just scale this up a bit and you could have machines that are empty shells waiting for a "ghost" to step in... the question is how to limit access. How is access controlled to our own brains/bodies? What goes wrong in DID cases?

The mysteries of psi are: where/when is information stored, for how long, and how is it accessed? How does the spiritual SSID key work? Why is the name of a spirit always so important in getting control of it? An ID gives access. Locality is just one means of ID. Non-local atemporal ID's can also exist.
 
What's the consensus? Are the Twitter Files a witting or an unwitting limited hangout? Because in a world where a low-lethality bioweapon was intentionally released for political disruption, the Twitter Files aren't getting at the whole truth.

My impression is they are an honest attempt at reformation of a corrupt system. They revealed what every based conspiracy theorist already knew but provided some hard evidence to bolster their case and as such probably moved the ball down the field.
 
Natural vs Artificial

Natural: created through an evolutionary process involving massive numbers of iterations of attempts at solving the various problems posed to existence of a fragile and evolving body in a harsh and evolving environment without a specific end goal.
I am totally convinced by the arguments that the Discovery Institute has presented that prove that we did not get here by evolution by natural selection. (I'm just not a Christian or similar, so I interpret their results to mean that some entity or entities designed us. Given the subtle nature of time that seems exist in the afterworld, it is even possibly that we designed our own physical shells!
Artificial: created through a direct efficient process with a specific end goal / use case in mind.
Well we already use our brains in conjunction with computer output.
Hybrid - deep learning - artificial and evolutionary: we create an agent and an environment that poses challenges and an adversary to judge and we run massive numbers of iterations to evolve towards a general goal but are often surprised by what pops up during the evolutionary process.
Again, from my perspective, there is no evolutionary process if it is to be driven by chance!
Now couldn't we also fall into this hybrid category?

If we can have Psi abilities, so could an artificial intelligence agent that we created. The meditator who influences the interferometer is supplying a "ghost" to a "machine". Just scale this up a bit and you could have machines that are empty shells waiting for a "ghost" to step in... the question is how to limit access. How is access controlled to our own brains/bodies? What goes wrong in DID cases?

The mysteries of psi are: where/when is information stored, for how long, and how is it accessed? How does the spiritual SSID key work? Why is the name of a spirit always so important in getting control of it? An ID gives access. Locality is just one means of ID. Non-local atemporal ID's can also exist.
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I reckon that is getting into the realms of excessive speculation right now, but DID is very intriguing. There are cases reported in Irreducible Mind in which different personalities of a single individual differed medically - e.g. needed different prescriptions for their eyes. There is so much exciting stuff that could be explored if only most researchers would take off their silly materialistic hats.

David
 
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