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these documents show the CIA was creating child porn and sex trafficking little kids for blackmail.
Ok. Where do the docs say that?
these documents show the CIA was creating child porn and sex trafficking little kids for blackmail.
Yes they are https://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml
- and it's been implied on Skeptiko podcasts many times.
I agree with Alex on this, and assume the trafficking is created/managed FOR blackmail. The MKULTRA effect on the trafficking victims seems at best a side hustle. I assume that the bulk of the MKULTRA is carried out by Hollywood, Netfilx, and by child hypnotizers like AOC.these documents show the CIA was creating child porn and sex trafficking little kids for blackmail.
I agree with Alex on this, and assume the trafficking is created/managed FOR blackmail. The MKULTRA effect on the trafficking victims seems at best a side hustle. I assume that the bulk of the MKULTRA is carried out by Hollywood, Netfilx, and by child hypnotizers like AOC.
Example: Recent cartoon show on Amazon "Invincible" which first episode clearly starts out as directed at children, but the end of the episode is the clearest example of MKULTRA 'cracking the egg' (if you will) obviously intended to initiate a trauma bond. DO NOT WATCH the whole thing if you have a weak stomach. Keep in mind probably mostly kids are watching this.
I'd be curious to see this in the source documents as well.Ok. Where do the docs say that?
I'd be curious to see this in the source documents as well.
I'd be curious to see this in the source documents as well.
So I'll take it that's your de facto admission that the notion that CIA ran The Finders and the proof is right there, is another CS heap of BS.
sorry for not responding sooner. I was out of pocket for a bit.hmmm...so far the lonely, yet soothing, sound of crickets at night in the wilderness.
sorry for not responding sooner. I was out of pocket for a bit.
Eric, no one is going to spoon-feed you the evidence and wait for you to call uncle. you havn't done the work.
They arrested these mother f****** in tallahassee. it led them to a warehouse in DC that was run by a CIA guy. the warehouse was full of child porn. martinez was told to look the other way because it was a CIA operation but he said " not on my watch."
John Brisson has hundreds of hrs of investigation into this include interviews w/ folks directly involved.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7vqQJCxvXl2tZ_V5P-gYJQ
John Brisson, Finders Cult or Another Epsteinesque ... - Skeptiko
( I suggest you post further comments in the above-mentioned thread as john extensively covers all the evidence during our conversation)
I assume Epstein was a deal maker, a broker, a connection maker. That is where his money came from. He'd get a commission for bringing the right people together and making things happen. He'd also get insider tips that allowed him to make wildly successful investments.One thing is very clear, Epstein had a lot of money to set up his island and presumably pay off those who were curious. The question is where this money came from. I have always assumed some organisation was using videos of the activities on the island to blackmail politicians.
David
So… Epstein has volumes on powerful people taking advantage of 16 year olds and “dies” (switcharoo/disappears) right at the peak of the #MeToo and…IMO, the girls were just party favors. There were probably many other types of treats available. Whatever it takes to help your guests/clients become comfortable and have a good time. The girls were not being raped. They volunteered. They were the 16 going on 32 type. I don't approve, but it's not like they were really "children" and it's not like they were kidnapped and raped. A hundred years ago or so, these girls were marrying age. In many countries today, they would still be.
I find the whole intelligence agency blackmail scheme theory to be based on watching too many Hollywood movies.
So… Epstein has volumes on powerful people taking advantage of 16 year olds and “dies” (switcharoo/disappears) right at the peak of the #MeToo and…
I can’t.
What’s your cause for the level of vouching you do for creeps?
I don’t speak for Skeptiko.Has it not occurred to you that Epstein had such a long successful run of it because he was discreet and did not threaten his clients? If he was blackmailing all of those powerful people all along he 1. Would not have had so many powerful friends/clients 2. Would have been killed long ago.
You can't have it both ways. Either there is a small elite group of movers and shakers that are sufficiently competent and ruthless to pull all of the strings and to conspire together in doing so; or there are just a bunch of wealthy degenerates in a loosely organized country club, at best, with no intra-club discussion or planning, that indulge their most base desires at every turn and are so weak and powerless that Epstein could control them for years.
I'm not "vouching" for anyone. How could you come to that conclusion? Analysis is not advocacy.
Skeptiko, where open minded thinking is encouraged......as long as the conclusion is always that the "official narrative" is wrong and that the CIA is behind it.
I don’t speak for Skeptiko.
I was just triggered by the normalizing tone you used to take the side of creepy billionaires against young confused girls.
Your arguments are substantial, but they don’t seem to aim toward the social norm. Older dudes with 18 y/o’s is like borderline creepy. Society generally voices the existence of a line there. Your argument seemed to favor lowering the bar.
Excellent retort. That's a worthy argument and I'm happy to engage.I understand.
For the record, I agree with you about the confused girls. I think that adults have a responsibility to treat girls like that appropriately even if the girls are bent on involving themselves in unsavory behaviors. Unfortunately, too many adults have no honor or decency when afforded the opportunity to commit sins in secrecy. That isn't just elites. It's every class in society. More 16 year olds are involved in sex with adults in trailer parks and blue collar neighborhoods than in DC or Epstein's island.
That said, we cannot arrive at truth and understanding if there are analytical paths we can't go down because we fear personal attacks on our character for doing so. It is important to understand that Epstein and his clients were technically, under the law, involved in pedophilia. However, the girls were voluntary participants and they weren't exactly innocent little children. That is an meaningful nuance to developing an understanding of the situation.
Excellent retort. That's a worthy argument and I'm happy to engage.
The immediate red flag that shoots up on your premise is:
Would it not be extremely high national security concern of all military and 3-letter agencies that sufficient vetting measures be taken with any "entertainment" supplied to a US President, and interrelated others of similar critical standing, to root out any potential for blackmail?
Perfect Example:
Multiple billions were (perhaps not spent, but) aimed at Trump near the end of 2016 and the absolute worst offense that was brought to light was I believe audio recording of jockish locker room banter bragging about grabbing Women by the pussy.
Genuine ask:
What does it tell You personally when you see certain famous people brandishing their seeming immunity to revelations of social violations far worse than jockish banter. Does this not raise a Hunger Games red flag for you?
We are going to have to differ on that. The law has to set a minimum age for such activity, and that age varies from country to country, but it is important to realise that Gislaine Maxwell picked up those girls using the fact that she was a woman, and took them to that island using one excuse or another. I expect many of those girls feared for their lives so it isn't reasonable to suggest they consented. I'd like to see Gislaine and Price Andrew do many years of jail time for what they did.I assume Epstein was a deal maker, a broker, a connection maker. That is where his money came from. He'd get a commission for bringing the right people together and making things happen. He'd also get insider tips that allowed him to make wildly successful investments.
IMO, the girls were just party favors. There were probably many other types of treats available. Whatever it takes to help your guests/clients become comfortable and have a good time. The girls were not being raped. They volunteered. They were the 16 going on 32 type. I don't approve, but it's not like they were really "children" and it's not like they were kidnapped and raped. A hundred years ago or so, these girls were marrying age. In many countries today, they would still be.
I find the whole intelligence agency blackmail scheme theory to be based on watching too many Hollywood movies.
Yes, I think Epstein was killed. However, not for the reasons that people think.