Pam Popper, Fight for Health Rights |526|

I’ve been advised this morning by my doctors to avoid the boosters due to my reaction.

I’m not looking forward to when these boosters become mandatory for everything else too.
There is a substantial black market developing for counterfeit vaccine cards. A good quality one costs around $250. Maybe you can find a source.

If I were ever in a situation where the vax became mandatory, I would get one of the counterfeits. There's always a way around whatever dumbass laws the government creates.
 
That is extremely important. Thank you for the time stamp. If that’s true it can’t be referred to as a theory any longer.
Nope. Straight up CF not the old CT fallback option.
Of course, the system is all corrupted, so there won't be any justice through there. It's up to the Canadians or Australians or Brits to pull the felony card which umbrellas over civil issues to bring these corporations to heel.
 
That is extremely important. Thank you for the time stamp. If that’s true it can’t be referred to as a theory any longer.
It appears important.

Now I have to determine if the Dr.'s evidence isn't the usual CT out of context, omission, fake facts and badly connected dots all colored by biases and wrong perceptions of reality - like the CTist distorted take on Rumsfeld's pre-9/11 comment about not be able to do centralized accounting due to antiquated systems (CT = it means they were stealing $trillions. So they blew up buildings and killed thousands!).

Way too much story telling. Too much disinformation. Too much stupidity.

But yeah, if what the Dr says is true, then covid was a conspiracy. So...now who has the intel to determine if the Dr is on point?
 
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Nope. Straight up CF not the old CT fallback option.
Of course, the system is all corrupted, so there won't be any justice through there. It's up to the Canadians or Australians or Brits to pull the felony card which umbrellas over civil issues to bring these corporations to heel.
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you know how they say “these crimes have been happening all throughout humanity, we just know more about it now because of the internet.”??

well, shitty people have also been rounded up and hung for crimes against humanity for all of human history. It just depends on enough people waking up to what has occurred…..

Whether or not they think they have some kind of justification for it, this virus was pushed onto humanity intentionally. I’ll be happy to bring the death penalty to any responsible for that.
 
It appears important.

Now I have to determine if the Dr.'s evidence isn't the usual CT out of context, omission, fake facts and badly connected dots all colored by biases and wrong perceptions of reality - like the CTist distorted take on Rumsfeld's pre-9/11 comment about not be able to do centralized accounting due to antiquated systems (CT = it means they were stealing $trillions. So the blew up buildings and killed thousands!).

Way too much story telling. Too much disinformation. Too much stupidity.

But yeah, if what the Dr says is true, then covid was a conspiracy. So...now who has the intel to determine if the Dr is on point?
The justice system isn’t perfect by any means. And part of that is the fact that a 2021-2022 society would have to hit a huuuge percent of the population awake to fuckery-afoot just to get a fair assessment.
 
Alex,
At one point in this episode you did what I think every righteous platform everywhere should be doing right now. You asked Pam to play devils advocate for the totalitarian globalists. This resulted in a short answer which to me is a face palm moment.
If you listen in on any war game discussion you will always hear the fiercest progress made in this zone. In my opinion, this is where we should have our feet planted.
!!!Let’s assume that the totalitarian globalists believe they are acting righteously on behalf of their ideology. Then we have an actual starting point
 
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you know how they say “these crimes have been happening all throughout humanity, we just know more about it now because of the internet.”??

well, shitty people have also been rounded up and hung for crimes against humanity for all of human history. It just depends on enough people waking up to what has occurred…..

Whether or not they think they have some kind of justification for it, this virus was pushed onto humanity intentionally. I’ll be happy to bring the death penalty to any responsible for that.
Funny thing is, it's by no means "new". Nazis and Project Paperclip. IG Farben. Pharmaceutical roots in Nazi labs and partnership with Standard Oil. Etcetera.
Aaand... As all of the old ones "peace out" and all of the first to sign up are compromised or also croak, it frees up our mental space from that old dead weight and belief in things no longer (if they ever were) true.
Sadly, all of the death may be necessary to energetically free us up for a different paradigm. But the separation of worlds will also continue unless they wake up faster...
 
Curious as to why you would "take stuff that Alex says on the show"? Does he really strike you as a "reliable source"?
I don't judge people as reliable or not. I try to identify their claims and evidence as reliable.
This is the biggest problem in the world. We put our faith in PEOPLE and not EVIDENCE.
I've noticed NOBODY helped me when I asked.
Makes me wonder why we're still arguing about Climate Change when Canada is at the forefront of seeing this.
For example, how do you deny Climate Change when we're seeing the permafrost slumps all across the north?
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...-these-scientists-are-trying-to-fight-it.html

Does this mean people aren't making money on Climate Change? OF COURSE. People have made money on every calamity since the beginning of humanity. It doesn't mean it's not true.
J
 
Alex,
At one point in this episode you did what I think every righteous platform everywhere should be doing right now. You asked Pam to play devils advocate for the totalitarian globalists. This resulted in a short answer which to me is a face palm moment.
If you listen in on any war game discussion you will always hear the fiercest progress made in this zone. In my opinion, this is where we should have our feet planted.
!!!Let’s assume that the totalitarian globalists believe they are acting righteously on behalf of their ideology. Then we have an actual starting point
I'm still not convinced there IS such a thing as a group of Totalitarian Globalists.
It seems to me to be an excuse for people who don't realize that capitalism has a fatal flaw. And that is corporate capitalism.
J
 
I'm still not convinced there IS such a thing as a group of Totalitarian Globalists.
It seems to me to be an excuse for people who don't realize that capitalism has a fatal flaw. And that is corporate capitalism.
J
At this point, it no longer matters. Welcome to the Apocalypse.
C
 
I for one don't give up that easily. And I'd prefer to be clear as to which direction the gunfire is coming from.
If we understand the ACTUAL problems, we can work towards solutions.
 
I don't judge people as reliable or not. I try to identify their claims and evidence as reliable.
This is the biggest problem in the world. We put our faith in PEOPLE and not EVIDENCE.

I agree with you that the biggest problem is we put our faith in PEOPLE, when what we should be looking at is the EVIDENCE. The problem is that we are not individually capable of identifying reliable evidence/claims, except for those very narrow areas we may have individual expertise (and I mean actual expertise, not the Dunning-Kruger kind of expertise ). So by default, we depend upon others to let us know what the evidence shows. It is possible to find experts who reliably convey what the evidence shows. However, very few people choose to go that route (and almost nobody here does so), and instead listen to people they can personally relate to, or people who have a similar agenda, or people who are have authority, etc. And none of those qualities are valid.
 
I agree with you that the biggest problem is we put our faith in PEOPLE, when what we should be looking at is the EVIDENCE. The problem is that we are not individually capable of identifying reliable evidence/claims, except for those very narrow areas we may have individual expertise (and I mean actual expertise, not the Dunning-Kruger kind of expertise ). So by default, we depend upon others to let us know what the evidence shows. It is possible to find experts who reliably convey what the evidence shows. However, very few people choose to go that route (and almost nobody here does so), and instead listen to people they can personally relate to, or people who have a similar agenda, or people who are have authority, etc. And none of those qualities are valid.

And EVERYBODY can be wrong on something and right on something else.
For example, I think Jordan Peterson is amazing when he focuses on his psychological side of experience. That's where he shines best.
When he leans into ideas of socialism and the like, he doesn't really hit home for me. There are too many issues in that kind of black/white analogy.
His hatred for Justin Trudeau for example. I neither like nor hate Trudeau. I hate some of his policies and like others.
The key to moving through the world is not making judgements on people, but rather focusing on the best solutions that people can provide.
In my opinion :)
J
 
I'm still not convinced there IS such a thing as a group of Totalitarian Globalists.
It seems to me to be an excuse for people who don't realize that capitalism has a fatal flaw. And that is corporate capitalism.
J
I can’t think of any other ideology who would push to mandate giving children or pregnant women an experimental phase of a shot that is strong enough to fight a coronavirus, while knowing the disease poses close to zero risk for children. And on top of that, know sooo very well that the shot is going to cause heart attacks in children that they already have messaging and treatments in place.
 
I for one don't give up that easily. And I'd prefer to be clear as to which direction the gunfire is coming from.
If we understand the ACTUAL problems, we can work towards solutions.
OK, so the actual problem is that since 1880 there has been an approx 1 degree Centigrade rise in average Earth temperature. Explain to me why I shouldn't go "Meh".

David
 
I can’t think of any other ideology who would push to mandate giving children or pregnant women an experimental phase of a shot that is strong enough to fight a coronavirus, while knowing the disease poses close to zero risk for children. And on top of that, know sooo very well that the shot is going to cause heart attacks in children that they already have messaging and treatments in place.

I can't think of ANY ideology. Are you trying to suggest that socialism would be doing that? Because I have a very sad eye-opener for you.
There is nothing that provides a "zero" risk.
It is indeed a very small risk, but there have been children at risk and dead too. Denying that reality is probably as bad as requiring a mandate in my mind.
But, the closest thing that c omes to pushing the idea that everyone has to have a shot, would be capitalism.
For the same reason why they don't offer the shots for free. The same reason why America won't have national socialist medicare.
The same reason why the cost of a COVID pill is something over 700 dollars when it costs a fraction of that to make it.

It's easier for people who have been told all their lives that government is the problem and the free market is the answer to say that it must be a governmental global conspiracy causing all this, than a handful of wealthy people who just want to put wealth in front of everything else, including human lives.
The same impulse that has Wal-mart become the second largest employer in America, and yet their workers use the most food stamps to get by, and the family is trying to privatize water and no one talks about it.
The same impulse that gives Jeff Bezos tax money back from the government, and billions to pay for him to go to the moon, while his workers crap in bags and pee in bottles because they don't have time for adequate breaks.
The same impulse that has an American justice system imprison Steve Donzinger because a corporation is vindictive that he was part of a defense team demanding they pay for the environmental damage they did to entire communities of people.

The lists go on and on of corrupt wealth screwing people over and over again, but somehow, we can't look at the possibility that the system of corporate capitalism isn't the problem, because then we'd have to try to fix capitalism, and ask ourselves what it would take to do that.
J
 
Keep in mind that the media in Canada gets extra money from the government to produce climate emergency stories. That tends to skew the media.

https://tnc.news/2020/02/11/liberals-paid-news-outlets-millions-for-climate-change-content/

Which is why you probably have never heard the other side of these issues.

https://tnc.news/2020/08/14/climate-alarmism-and-co2-with-dr-patrick-moore/



No wonder poor brain-washed Canadian kids are so terrified these days. Nothing like fear to control the masses.

https://tnc.news/2020/08/17/canadia...of-climate-change-than-drugs-or-gun-violence/

There is a lot of hypocrisy involved in the whole climate alarmism movement.



I never heard of "True North Media". A little investigation shows why.
It's a wealthy shill company that produces Right wing nonsense.
Always follow the money.
https://www.straight.com/tech/right...lowers-and-leo-knight-down-by-300-after-trump
https://cultmtl.com/2019/10/fake-news-media-literacy/

Check out their origins,.
https://canucklaw.ca/media-5-the-origins-of-true-north-canada-which-its-founder-hides/

If we're going to get honesty in the world. We have to stop falling down left/right rabbit holes. Please!
J
 
I can't think of ANY ideology. Are you trying to suggest that socialism would be doing that? Because I have a very sad eye-opener for you.
There is nothing that provides a "zero" risk.
It is indeed a very small risk, but there have been children at risk and dead too. Denying that reality is probably as bad as requiring a mandate in my mind.
But, the closest thing that c omes to pushing the idea that everyone has to have a shot, would be capitalism.
For the same reason why they don't offer the shots for free. The same reason why America won't have national socialist medicare.
The same reason why the cost of a COVID pill is something over 700 dollars when it costs a fraction of that to make it.

It's easier for people who have been told all their lives that government is the problem and the free market is the answer to say that it must be a governmental global conspiracy causing all this, than a handful of wealthy people who just want to put wealth in front of everything else, including human lives.
The same impulse that has Wal-mart become the second largest employer in America, and yet their workers use the most food stamps to get by, and the family is trying to privatize water and no one talks about it.
The same impulse that gives Jeff Bezos tax money back from the government, and billions to pay for him to go to the moon, while his workers crap in bags and pee in bottles because they don't have time for adequate breaks.
The same impulse that has an American justice system imprison Steve Donzinger because a corporation is vindictive that he was part of a defense team demanding they pay for the environmental damage they did to entire communities of people.

The lists go on and on of corrupt wealth screwing people over and over again, but somehow, we can't look at the possibility that the system of corporate capitalism isn't the problem, because then we'd have to try to fix capitalism, and ask ourselves what it would take to do that.
J
I’m not a capitalist or a socialist. I just believe the US constitution is the best attempt at mass scale freedom yet. So, I’m pretty much in agreement with everything you said except the dichotomy.
 
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