Since I saw a UFO during the early 70s, I have been fascinated by that whole topic; my "bio. robot" PhD younger bro saw one as well in the same general area as I did only a year or two earlier. I think they were attracted to the B-1B nuclear bombers stationed out at Dyess Air Force base at that time. I've always thought that the people who roundly rejected them as anything real were hung up on that 'Earth & its shaved apes are the center of the universe' crap that religion tried to sell as part of their psychop.Great interview!
Alien abduction is fascinating topic, just like everything else alien it is like a onion with layers. Personally I think it says something about the nature of reality. When we say it is non real and paranormal vs nuts and bolts assumes buying into the materialism dogma.
Our culture is still using a belief based on an assumption that something proposed to exist outside of consciousness somehow creates something we can't explain called consciousness because that is all that exists!!!
But yeah, ufo's are weird too. ;)