Ricky Varandas, Is Fake Science Evil? |530|

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I would argue seeing more death doesn't make you de-sensitized to it. It really depends to the context.
I disagree. You learn to steel your heart and do what you gotta do. You also learn to compartmentalize the feelings afterward, as well as finding other ways of coping. Saying that it gets "easier" to do the more you do it isn't entirely accurate. It totally misses the essence of the experience, but you do get better at dealing with the whole thing more efficient at the killing.
Being there at the end of life for one of the animals you take care of certainly can affect you far more deeply than never witnessing death.
J
I had a cat for 23 years. Beautiful exotic - a "Bengal" (hybrid that looks like a little leopard).Super intelligent and extremely friendly member of the family. Her last year she was pretty much blind and deaf, but I could not bring myself to put her down, nor could my wife. One night she yowled, fell on the floor having spasms and died. As I picked her lifeless body up to put her in a basket for burial, I began to shake and cry, uncontrollably. Tough guy that I am, I totally broke down, Totally - for like 20minutes.

That said, that experience is very different from taking the life of a large animal or a human.
 
#22
Question at the end: What is the nature of this PLANDEMIC EVIL?

There are many components of evil that when taken individually or in a different context might not be considered evil.

Evil is stealing the future from the many young and innocent so that the few old and accomplished may have more. Evil is Chronos eating his children. But is an old lion evil for eating many young rabbits? Is predation evil?

Evil is the pleasure derived from forcing people to do what they don't want to do or from causing them pain without a purpose. But what if they deserve it? What if this pleasure from pain is rooted in the evolutionary biology of predation? Why do little boys like to hit and kick and crush everything with red snarling monster trucks and why do they have to be taught how to be nice and empathetic?

Evil is destroying what others have built. But what if their structures are defective and dangerous and oppressive and ugly or generally standing in the way of building something new?

Evil is foiling others attempt to achieve a good. But if there were no foil and achieving the good were easy, would it be worth anything? When does heaven become Cloud-Cuckoo-Land?

If the average level of consciousnesses of the human population does not enable them to do what's best for them, are a few noble lies to steer them really evil?

I have a visceral negative reaction to the evil lying soulless mid-level bureaucrats attempting to impose the vaccine mandates and lockdowns and empowering violent destructive mobs and systematically dismantling our culture and traditional values. I have equally negative feelings towards the mindless NPC's who do what they're told. But at the same time from the 10,000' view. I welcome the challenge knowing that as things are being destroyed and as our humanity is being tested and our freedoms are in peril, this is the very contest we need in order to thrive and recharge the creative spirit. There is a great deal about this modern society that is oppressive and ugly and should be destroyed.

Klaus Schwab and his ilk can go to hell and I'd be happy to send them there, but part of me is cheering them on.

When I play with blocks with my 2-year-old son there is pleasure in building AND destroying.

The comedian destroys with his jokes. Humor is an agent of destruction. Why is creepy maniacal laughter associated with evil? In part because evil is making a joke out of pain.

What makes things serious? Pain. Loss. The threat of such. What if you consciously accept and embrace pain like Tyler in Fight Club or the Joker in Batman? Nothing is serious anymore. It is all a big game. Wiping out millions is as easy as a 2-year old knocking over a block tower built a few seconds ago. Pain is what adds rigidity and stability to the structures we've built.

You could argue that we have become experts in pain and loss and have the whole world rigged for demolition with nuclear weapons. This threat of pain and loss from nuclear war has resulted in an increasingly rigid international structure and we experience this increase in rigidity as increasingly oppressive and invasive government. How do we break it up without pulling the wrong wire and setting off the bomb?

The globalists are making block towers and knocking them over playing god with the structures of our society. As a very independent individual with traditional values I will fight to the death for the future of my children to be free and have opportunities to better themselves and have many life experiences, but in some sense I view these globalists who I believe are in part motivated by the desire to create something new and better as less evil than those just beneath them in the pyramid who have no vision, no originality, don't have any creative spirit and are merely dominated by fear of loss and fear of pain and who would sacrifice others for their gain.

Free choice requires an ambiguous boundary to exist. Efforts to create a global ID system for every individual are efforts to eliminate ambiguity of identity and thus to stamp out freedom and create an easily controllable and steerable collective. This is abhorrent to me. But do single-celled organisms look with disdain upon the cells in the human body that have given up individuality to build something bigger? Are my muscle cells living in a dystopia that the first eukaryotes warned about? There are trade-offs for both individualism and collectivism.

The globalists are trying to create a unified controllable human collective where the will is removed from the individual and moved up the hierarchy. This sounds like hell and they won't fully succeed. But we also need them to try as a natural consequence of our progression and evolution in consciousness. Mother nature is a bitch and her harsh lessons got us this far, but we've grown up and moved out and now we have been wilding and getting fat in college and need to experience some new negative consequences and get taken advantage of a few times to get wiser.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't like the way things are going and surely many components of it are evil, but I'm glad something new is happening and I look forward to the contest this will present. There are no skyscrapers without gravity. There is nothing good without something working against it.
The term "Globalists" is as meaningful to me as "The Boogie Man".
It's been used for decades with basically no effect.
It's always a cover for the real power- unregulated corporate capitalism.
What else would Globalists use to control the world? The tools that made them who they are.
And before someone says, "But then they will force (dreaded) Socialism on us!"
There's zero evidence of that. Who is fighting harder to keep unions out of his playgrounds? Bezos. Musk. All the billionaires.
They don't want to control us because they already control us.
They own us through indentured servitude to power. Why would they want to kill us? We're the people that keep making them billions.
Until folks wake up to actual threat they can hide behind vastly generic terms like "Evil" and "Globalists" and continue stealing food from your lips.
J
 
#23
I am glad the civil rights movement happened and that we now treat all races with respect and human decency, but I think we've overcorrected
We forgot to tack on to the Equal Rights Amendment a clause to prevent overcorrection, such as "...While the afore mentioned freedoms are hereby declared vital and irrevocable, we bear full knowledge and of equal importance the monitoring of the enforcement these rights, that the methods of their protection never be ill-defined to include infringement upon other rights....".. or something
 
#24
Anyhow, to answer the question, "is fake science evil?". Anything fake, that is intended to deceive people for gain, whether material or immaterial, and that isn't acknowledged by all parties as being pure entertainment, is evil. It is one of the essential aspects of evil = lies.

So that includes fake science, fake news, fake history, politicians making fake statements and promises, a spouse faking being in love, an investment advisor faking skills and knowledge and intent, any con, any false presentation of "reality", fake self-assessment. All bad. All evil. All causing pain in the world.
 
#26
The term "Globalists" is as meaningful to me as "The Boogie Man".
It's been used for decades with basically no effect.
It's always a cover for the real power- unregulated corporate capitalism.
What else would Globalists use to control the world? The tools that made them who they are.
And before someone says, "But then they will force (dreaded) Socialism on us!"
There's zero evidence of that. Who is fighting harder to keep unions out of his playgrounds? Bezos. Musk. All the billionaires.
They don't want to control us because they already control us.
They own us through indentured servitude to power. Why would they want to kill us? We're the people that keep making them billions.
Until folks wake up to actual threat they can hide behind vastly generic terms like "Evil" and "Globalists" and continue stealing food from your lips.
J
Example of a Globalist: George Soros recently funded a PAC here in Austin to discourage people from voting for a proposition that would re-fund the Austin police department. He and his son have funded PACs here in Austin for other measures and political candidates.

Why does this billionaire involve himself in my local politics? Because he’s playing a global game of chess.

Sure, a lot of evil is committed and covered up by corporations too. But globalists are not a mythical bogey man they exist. They have goals and objectives and they move pieces around.
 
#27
Anyhow, to answer the question, "is fake science evil?". Anything fake, that is intended to deceive people for gain, whether material or immaterial, and that isn't acknowledged by all parties as being pure entertainment, is evil.
But is an old lion evil for eating many young rabbits? Is predation evil?
Nope, and Nope..

If a starving man steals food from another starving man to feed a starving child, he acting in the same survival mind as the lion eating young rabbits.

If an oligarch decides it's easier to force a society to adopt its brand of world governance(control), rather than spend the necessary investments of education to elevate/enable those "bad acting" lower status populations to improve their act (humanity), they are stealing humanity from their lower status counter parts,
Humanity didn't earn top-of-the-food-chain-status by gifting rich nerds unlimited power.

EVIL = My want is more important than your need. ** And when I say "your need" I'm largely referring Humanity's need for balance.
 
#28
Nope, and Nope..

If a starving man steals food from another starving man to feed a starving child, he acting in the same survival mind as the lion eating young rabbits.

If an oligarch decides it's easier to force a society to adopt its brand of world governance(control), rather than spend the necessary investments of education to elevate/enable those "bad acting" lower status populations to improve their act (humanity), they are stealing humanity from their lower status counter parts,
Humanity didn't earn top-of-the-food-chain-status by gifting rich nerds unlimited power.

EVIL = My want is more important than your need. ** And when I say "your need" I'm largely referring Humanity's need for balance.
Evil arises out of the complexities of a predatory species that has itself ascended the food chain having once been preyed upon that simultaneously requires tremendous empathy and self sacrifice to raise its offspring to successful adulthood and is just barely conscious enough to begin to understand itself.

It cannot be fully defined without specific context and that’s one reason perhaps why we are here: to explore the incalculable nuance and variety forms of good and evil.
 
#29
Example of a Globalist: George Soros recently funded a PAC here in Austin to discourage people from voting for a proposition that would re-fund the Austin police department. He and his son have funded PACs here in Austin for other measures and political candidates.

Why does this billionaire involve himself in my local politics? Because he’s playing a global game of chess.

Sure, a lot of evil is committed and covered up by corporations too. But globalists are not a mythical bogey man they exist. They have goals and objectives and they move pieces around.
Soros tends to be the boogie man of the Right for decades. I always wondered why. There are far worse people in the world like Bezos who is on the Left (so he says, but really isn't).
Funding a PAC to discourage people from a political choice seems small peanuts compared so someone literally reshaping everything we do.

But let's say that Soros is a "Globalist". He's been at it for decades (I assume). Other than playing some kind of mysterious game of Chess, he's not really done anything of note to actually take over the world, has he?
J
 
#31
Evil arises out of the complexities of a predatory species that has itself ascended the food chain having once been preyed upon that simultaneously requires tremendous empathy and self sacrifice to raise its offspring to successful adulthood and is just barely conscious enough to begin to understand itself.

It cannot be fully defined without specific context and that’s one reason perhaps why we are here: to explore the incalculable nuance and variety forms of good and evil.
Sounds a little scary when it's defined that way doesn't it? I mean, we could go back to the Inquisitors and the Witch trials and say that they felt the same way. "I don't know what evil is, but I'll tell you when I see it."

I think there's a blindness that comes across as very much fundamentalism if we're not careful. We need to be very wary that one of the "evils" of humanity is that we easily fool ourselves into thinking we're doing the right thing when we've just become the very oppressors we hate.
 
#32
Corbett not Corvette.
Bots...
Good show. Podcasts, podcasts, and more podcasts!
Acceleration.
Maybe get Clif High on if he's not too busy and discuss THE BUG.
You just can't stop pushing on that EVIL button, so...
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I always thought Clif High was kind of a nut job. But, he might be onto something as of late I listened to his "Woo" ideas :)
 
#33
"People who lived on farms and bred animals tended to see humans the same way. You don't assign a basic value to pigs just because they are pigs or refrain from prejudice upon a weak broke-back horse just because it is of the equine species. Different individuals and different breeds have desirable or undesirable qualities and the farmer makes a conscious effort to exterminate or limit reproduction of the stock with undesirable qualities so that the herd is improved. To a farmer this "eugenics" effort with his livestock is not evil - it is normal."

Would I EVER like to see anything resembling evidence accompanying this statement.
As someone who grew up in a rural community, I would argue that family farms and their farmers were a whole lot more humane than those living in a city disconnected from nature. No one I've ever known who grew up on a farm would equate breeding animals and eugenics as the same thing.
Wow. Just wow.
I guess eventually you hear everything I suppose.
J
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I'm sorry did you say you want evidence that breeders breed for healthy stock? Of course, we breed for healthy & long-lived animals. To do otherwise is pretty insane. If you are reselling stock as well you need to understand a lot of people actually attach to their animals like family. You never want to pass down sickly animals. That is just wrong. That is the difference between a breeder & a pet owner. A real breeder does the hard, heartbreaking work of putting some animals down, we don't pass this on to an unsuspecting public, that is pretty evil.

I think maybe you are thinking of backyard breeders who will breed anything & sell anything just to make money. It has nothing to do with love.
 
#34
The term "Globalists" is as meaningful to me as "The Boogie Man".
It's been used for decades with basically no effect.
It's always a cover for the real power- unregulated corporate capitalism.
What else would Globalists use to control the world? The tools that made them who they are.
And before someone says, "But then they will force (dreaded) Socialism on us!"
There's zero evidence of that. Who is fighting harder to keep unions out of his playgrounds? Bezos. Musk. All the billionaires.
They don't want to control us because they already control us.
They own us through indentured servitude to power. Why would they want to kill us? We're the people that keep making them billions.
Until folks wake up to actual threat they can hide behind vastly generic terms like "Evil" and "Globalists" and continue stealing food from your lips.
J
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You got to be kidding? You can't see the forced socialism from "Globalist"? wow. Hum, I think you just don't know the meaning of "socialism" let me help you: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." Kinda like Cuba, only in actuality, the main fool thinks he talks for ALL the "community".

You're all mixed up. You're mixing the bad parts of capitalism which yeah, we know, work until you die is a bad idea. But, you have the freedom to invent & plan for you & your childrens future. We don't have assbites telling us what we can do & selling our livers.

There are "good" & "bad" globalist. Although Elon is kind of a fraud (yeah I know his history) I kind of like him. While that filthy assbite Bill Gates could go jump off a cliff. Along w/that idiot Soros & who is that weirdo that wears that black outer space outfit... yeah him. He can go too.
 
#35
We’re in trouble. “What’s puzzling you is the nature of my game”. <To quote Mick Jagger. By March of 2020 I knew we were at war, it’s just that nobody told us.

Confusion & scaring people is some of the weapons they are wielding but that isn’t the only weapon. It’s the vaccine. It’s an agenda. What we want to figure out is whose “agenda”? And, how do we stop them, because if you like going for a simple country drive where you pick up some fresh strawberries & maybe some amusing roadside stores trinket, THAT is about to come to a screeching end.

If you like owning something & passing that down to your children that is going off the table. Do you want to pick where you work or live? Sorry, that’s going to go down also. This time they are out for blood… yours and the children’s.

No, I’m not being overly dramatic, I’m telling you right now in Australia some lady stopped her car, got out & set herself on fire. In AUSTRALIA, not N. Korea. In Germany, a man shot himself, his wife & 3 children because he couldn’t take it anymore.

I don’t think we even have the luxury of time to try to figure out if these people are demon-possessed, psychopaths, or just the worst form of greedy mankind.

If it were just they were greedy assbites, I could understand that. But oh no, they want more than just your money & power; they want a bunch of us dead. Little children too. YOUR children.

Alex, you brought up “Dopesick”. My son has to get his wisdom teeth out, they already wrote him an Rx for Oxy. He saw Dopesick & said, “HELL NO.” My spouse is going for elective surgery in a few weeks. They already sent us the information for pre-op. Guess what little sign they showed? That smiley face one AND on the menu Oxy on demand! So, nobody learned THAT lesson.

My YouTube channel has been taken down so many times I’m starting to feel like a cheap street urchin. All because as your guest has found, doctors who have another idea, that is not allowed.

This last toss-off was because I ran a podcast on the money aspect. These pharma companies are only the face. Behind (where the gov. money actually went) are 4 companies you never heard of. One is military one is an advertising/marketing conglomerate.

How well are they organized? Blackrock emailed me. Yeah, that. That quick they located me & sent an invite to a party. Jesus like everyone is a sellout for the money?

Evil Alex…. Evil. I never believed in demons I just believed in mental illness, but now? I have no idea what we got here. How many yachts can you sail on at once, how much money can you choke on? Have they no souls? Apparently not.

What did Father Christmas warn Scrooge about? “Want & ignorance”. It’s so bad now… for the first time since having children we are now talking about getting guns. For that line in the sand, nobody is seeing coming. It’s where you get the knock on the door for the “well check”. “Did ya get your shot? No? Let us in said the military man… let us in said the police, show me your papers.”

Because while we have this quiet time to think logically you have to ask yourself where is your line in the sand? You don’t want to be making that decision when the boxcar pulls up.

We in the USA still have hope only because we are armed. I hate that, I hate it so much, but is true. While other people in other countries are saying “this can’t be happening”…. It is happening. No shot, no groceries. No school. If you go out without a mask they are handing out $5,000 fines. Proposed is fines for stores of $110,000. If they do not operate the “show me your papers” program.

Oh, we got a problem, my friends. It’s been building. The rascals have been getting away with it for years. But this time, we've entire federal agencies from what appears to be many countries bearing down on us all. Our 2008 meltdown is going to look like child’s play compared to Evergrandes default.


Sure, the agencies are our pals.
 
#36
Soros tends to be the boogie man of the Right for decades. I always wondered why. There are far worse people in the world like Bezos who is on the Left (so he says, but really isn't).
Funding a PAC to discourage people from a political choice seems small peanuts compared so someone literally reshaping everything we do.

But let's say that Soros is a "Globalist". He's been at it for decades (I assume). Other than playing some kind of mysterious game of Chess, he's not really done anything of note to actually take over the world, has he?
J
It sounds like you are starting to get the picture, Jack. We have a frightening group of billionaires who think they are Gods - possibly one should think of Nero. This man - former chief scientist at Pfizer says it better than most:

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/15/watch-covid19-11-mike-yeadon/

Soros has done a huge amount of damage in Europe. He encourages migrant flows on a huge scale - it is happening in the US too now. I think he has some sort of grudge against the developed nations.

The only bit I think you won't like is that much as I used to support the Green movement, I think they were led astray years back into obsessing about climate change caused by CO2. Soros gives a lot of money to climate change activists, and I'm afraid I don't think he funds things for the good they might do, but for the chaos they can cause. For example my partner came from Czechoslovakia (as it then was), so she knows a lot about what is going on there. Soros funds NGO organisations ostensibly to help the gipsies in the Czech republic. The gipsies get nothing out of this, because they seem to spend their money on campaigning against the government.

Back to 'climate change'. The campaign to stop us using fossil fuels has been going on for decades. Supposedly this is causing catastrophic warming of the globe, yet the actual measured value is 1 deg C in the last 140 years.

Yes, they try to fool people by multiplying the increase in temperature by the heat capacity of the Earth, but that is an utterly unscientific way of thinking - and they know it. Which contains more heat, a warm bath tub, or a kettle of boiling water? They know most people don't know much science, and they can make any bogus sciency sounding claim, and most people will believe them. In the same way as vaccinating people in the middle of pandemic is not the way to end the pandemic.

Obviously the bath tub contains more heat, but the kettle of boiling water is more dangerous!

The purpose of decarbonising the planet is to cause civilisation to collapse.


Rogue, phoney science is an incredible danger to the world.

David
 
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#37
Soros tends to be the boogie man of the Right for decades. I always wondered why. There are far worse people in the world like Bezos who is on the Left (so he says, but really isn't).
Funding a PAC to discourage people from a political choice seems small peanuts compared so someone literally reshaping everything we do.

But let's say that Soros is a "Globalist". He's been at it for decades (I assume). Other than playing some kind of mysterious game of Chess, he's not really done anything of note to actually take over the world, has he?
J
A farmer does not “take over the farm” … he manages it. Soros, I believe, sees himself as one among a group of elites tasked with managing the human herd. He drops half a million here and there like a farmer opening and closing gates to the paddock.
 
#38
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I always thought Clif High was kind of a nut job. But, he might be onto something as of late I listened to his "Woo" ideas :)
He's both. A bit out there, but finally shared his experience recently of other realms.
I dig what little nuggets he pulls from history. And his web bots are a technological version of precognition, so he has the skinny and the dirty on things manifesting on the 3D as far as most people are focused and concerned.
The bots can't see into the higher realms though, so fairly limited.
 
#39
We’re in trouble. “What’s puzzling you is the nature of my game”. <To quote Mick Jagger. By March of 2020 I knew we were at war, it’s just that nobody told us.

Confusion & scaring people is some of the weapons they are wielding but that isn’t the only weapon. It’s the vaccine. It’s an agenda. What we want to figure out is whose “agenda”? And, how do we stop them, because if you like going for a simple country drive where you pick up some fresh strawberries & maybe some amusing roadside stores trinket, THAT is about to come to a screeching end.

If you like owning something & passing that down to your children that is going off the table. Do you want to pick where you work or live? Sorry, that’s going to go down also. This time they are out for blood… yours and the children’s.

No, I’m not being overly dramatic, I’m telling you right now in Australia some lady stopped her car, got out & set herself on fire. In AUSTRALIA, not N. Korea. In Germany, a man shot himself, his wife & 3 children because he couldn’t take it anymore.

I don’t think we even have the luxury of time to try to figure out if these people are demon-possessed, psychopaths, or just the worst form of greedy mankind.

If it were just they were greedy assbites, I could understand that. But oh no, they want more than just your money & power; they want a bunch of us dead. Little children too. YOUR children.

Alex, you brought up “Dopesick”. My son has to get his wisdom teeth out, they already wrote him an Rx for Oxy. He saw Dopesick & said, “HELL NO.” My spouse is going for elective surgery in a few weeks. They already sent us the information for pre-op. Guess what little sign they showed? That smiley face one AND on the menu Oxy on demand! So, nobody learned THAT lesson.

My YouTube channel has been taken down so many times I’m starting to feel like a cheap street urchin. All because as your guest has found, doctors who have another idea, that is not allowed.

This last toss-off was because I ran a podcast on the money aspect. These pharma companies are only the face. Behind (where the gov. money actually went) are 4 companies you never heard of. One is military one is an advertising/marketing conglomerate.

How well are they organized? Blackrock emailed me. Yeah, that. That quick they located me & sent an invite to a party. Jesus like everyone is a sellout for the money?

Evil Alex…. Evil. I never believed in demons I just believed in mental illness, but now? I have no idea what we got here. How many yachts can you sail on at once, how much money can you choke on? Have they no souls? Apparently not.

What did Father Christmas warn Scrooge about? “Want & ignorance”. It’s so bad now… for the first time since having children we are now talking about getting guns. For that line in the sand, nobody is seeing coming. It’s where you get the knock on the door for the “well check”. “Did ya get your shot? No? Let us in said the military man… let us in said the police, show me your papers.”

Because while we have this quiet time to think logically you have to ask yourself where is your line in the sand? You don’t want to be making that decision when the boxcar pulls up.

We in the USA still have hope only because we are armed. I hate that, I hate it so much, but is true. While other people in other countries are saying “this can’t be happening”…. It is happening. No shot, no groceries. No school. If you go out without a mask they are handing out $5,000 fines. Proposed is fines for stores of $110,000. If they do not operate the “show me your papers” program.

Oh, we got a problem, my friends. It’s been building. The rascals have been getting away with it for years. But this time, we've entire federal agencies from what appears to be many countries bearing down on us all. Our 2008 meltdown is going to look like child’s play compared to Evergrandes default.


Sure, the agencies are our pals.
I find it a lack of awareness if one hasn't been aware of the astrology or channeling coming down the last couple years. It's helped me ground and focus, not react.
 
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A farmer does not “take over the farm” … he manages it. Soros, I believe, sees himself as one among a group of elites tasked with managing the human herd. He drops half a million here and there like a farmer opening and closing gates to the paddock.
Bill Gates as well.

Gates has published several papers, and stated in speeches, descriptions of his master plan to lower the planet's population and deliver more equity (a favorite word of the Left). Basically, it goes like this - the planet is getting warmer (quotes much climate change clap trap). More people = more agriculture = more fossil fuel burning. So more people = more warming. Therefore, the population must be reduced.

How to reduce the population? Well this ties into the fake science as evil theme. Gates says that science tells him that people in the third world have lots of children because disease and death are so rampant that parents know most of their children will die. So having lots of children means that at least a couple will survive to adulthood. Therefore, if Gates can lower the mortality rate for children, people will have fewer children and global population will be in control. Can you see the error in thinking there? I'll return to it in a minute.

Anyhow, Gates intends to lower child mortality - thus lowering birth rates and thus decreasing climate change - by introducing mass vaccinations. This is why he is heavily investing in vaccine tech.

Again, this is NOT a CT. This comes straight from Gates multiple times. There is no context distortion. I'm sure all of you intrepid internet researchers can easily look it up.

Now, the error in Gate's thinking mentioned above - if children are dying at such a high, then there wouldn't be over-population in the first place. Obviously. according to the flip side of Gate's "science" children are surviving; or else there wouldn't be over-population. IMO, Gates is up to something else, but selling it in terms of popular fears about global warming.

Gate's does link all of this to equity (again, a socialist concept). With fewer people, there willl be more for everyone. The resources of the world can be divided and distributed equally to all. Sounds like a global socialist movement to me. Again, look it up. This is straight from the horse's mouth.
 
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