Scott Shay, Conspiracy Theories in Academia |525|

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You are too much. Is there anyone else out there who does not understand that the Israeli on TV was admitting to foreknowledge of the event (9/11)? Please chime in. This guy... I dunno... is some kind of tribute to doublethink.
How was he admitting to foreknowledge of the event?

What is the timeline of events? The building is hit and the Jewish guys come out to see it (like a gazillion others) - or they were there waiting for the buildings to be hit? If the latter, you have presented nothing to confirm that except, so far, your imagination.

I understand that (your imagination?) is what you want to believe. Now, please enlighten us as to how you arrived at that belief. Please tell me that your conclusion is based off more than the statement that he was there to record the event.

Also, please tell us who that guy in the video is and how you know. What is the provenance of that whole video and the people on it?

Thank you.
 
#22
You are too much. Is there anyone else out there who does not understand that the Israeli on TV was admitting to foreknowledge of the event (9/11)? Please chime in. This guy... I dunno... is some kind of tribute to doublethink.
Allan, I think preknowledge is generally accepted. (Bill Cooper, Rumsfeld Trillions, 'Dancing Israelis', PNAC, etc) Its important, and should be added to the list of inconsistencies but without undue emphasis.

We have the same problem again and again with statutory conspiracies. Lots of inconsistencies and we argue for decades over them, because we are stymied politically, and judicially for solutions. However, the arguing means we are winning culturally.

Alex did great in this interview. I don't see the disingenuousness you claim. He corned an educated normie and got multiple admissions. Shay sounded winded by the end. Sad he isn't more used to push back in his echo chamber.
EDIT: Sorry Eric for not single quoting the Dancing Israelis; I'll fix that. Oops did it again.
 
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#23
Allan, I think preknowledge is generally accepted. (Bill Cooper, Rumsfeld Trillions, Dancing Israelis, PNAC, etc) Its important, and should be added to the list of inconsistencies but without undue emphasis.
Incidentally, when you refer to the Israelis as "dancing", you're actually repeating a jihadi talking point. No one witnessed them dancing, nor stated that they did.

Here is one source on that point - https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/

I begin to accept that Skeptiko is a forum for clinical paranoids and assorted other tools and fools to jerk each other off. I'd rather interact with competent adults.

Adios and have fun in your own private schizo land.
 
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Incidentally, when you refer to the Israelis as "dancing", you're actually repeating a jihadi talking point. No one witnessed them dancing, nor stated that they did.

Here is one source on that point - https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/

I begin to accept that Skeptiko is a forum for clinical paranoids and assorted other tools and fools to jerk each other off. I'd rather interact with competent adults.

Adios and have fun in your own private schizo land.
I meant no disrespect to you or the 'wallflower israelis'. My point was that it's not helpful to go into the weeds on every everything. I listed it because its a reasonable data point with some evidence [like cui bono]. Speculation is not aggression.

Secondly, are you kidding me? Where have we been on this journey? Invading aliens, hungry demons, genocides, corruption, secret societies, SRA, and on and on. Paranoia? It's truths asking price.
 
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Go to the end of this YT vid. The Israeli says 'We were there to document the event.' Your guest is either an idiot or Mossad, probably the latter. Again, Why, Alex, didn't you say they admitted it on Israeli TV? You surely knew or you would not have brought up their appearance.
(Alex, did you censor my other comment here? Why?)


I'm not used to forums so forgive if I'm doing this wrong, but you hit the nail all right, about everything. The '6 million' number (of Jewish victims) has been used for about a century. Etc. That Alex would fail to call out his interviewee (re it all but especially 9/11) says a lot.

A while back Alex started an interview with Dr. Tom Cowan, but refused to continue when Cowan first brought up the fact that the covid virus has not been isolated. (Cowan is in my link, above.) Alex in effect censored the truth. (It's not arguable that covid has not been isolated, in the true, actual meaning of isolation.) Someone does something like this and fails to apologize when the info becomes available, is likely to be a PTB (alt media) mole. Most of the alt media are of this sort, I've found. (If not formal moles then de facto (useful idiots) moles.)

It's good to know that some listeners to this podcast understand the 'problem' with Alex.
I listened to that..I remember the guy , Cowan, basically hanging up....Mandela affect?
 
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Alex in effect censored the truth. ... It's good to know that some listeners to this podcast understand the 'problem' with Alex.
If you dont have first hand knowledge, you dont know anything. Dial back on the arrogance. Reasonable speculation based on reasonable data, is all we have. Alex MAY be wrong on Cowan, but he isn't an arrogant asshole like you and me [in recovery].
 
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Scott's main thesis seemed to be "that's a debunked conspiracy theory." He knocked down straw men and used hyperbole and pilpul throughout the interview. "Dogs sometimes bite, so does that mean we should put down all dogs? No, of course not!" *eye roll*

Intelligent people have real questions, but when certain topics have been placed off-limits, conspiracy theories are born. He must understand this, right? We now know that the Holocaust stories and statistics have been greatly exaggerated for political benefit, but we've all been born into an implicit social contract that disallows this discussion. I believe that the Holocaust happened and think it is one of the great tragedies of human history, but Scott is working against his own goals if he believes that calling people "Nazis" is going to silence the anti-Semites. Unfortunately, Scott is the perfect embodiment of the racist "Oy vey, Shut it down" meme.

The 9/11 dancing Mossad agents were a real thing. WWII is more complicated than "Hitler was crazy" as many of us Gen Xers were taught in high school. The Nazis didn't kill 6,000,000 Jews using masturbation machines, death rollercoasters, electrified floors, and bear attacks. But acknowledging any of these things IRL will get you crucified. The Overton Window is brutally enforced by people like Scott.
 
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