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I know what I seen and that's all I'll say it requires practice everyday if you don't have the energy you can debate pseudo skeptics for the rest of your life
What's your distinction between a small occurrence on a very small scale and a skill?If Telekinesis was learnable, there would be millions and millions of people practicing it by now and it already would have been accepted as fact long ago. Parents would have taught their children which would have passed down the knowledge to their children and so forth. I know quite a hand full of people who believe in it, but none has ever seen it happen by him or herself: "Somebody told me that somebody is able to....".
If it is possible, then I strongly believe it is not a skill one can learn, but a random occurence on a very small scale.
That isn't a very safe way to reason. For example, there have been exceptional people of all sorts in history (take the Mathematician Gauss for example) who did things that seem impossible for a human being to achieve. However, we tend to encourage very bright kids to do maths, but we don't encourage people with gifts in this direction to develop them.If Telekinesis was learnable, there would be millions and millions of people practicing it by now and it already would have been accepted as fact long ago. Parents would have taught their children which would have passed down the knowledge to their children and so forth. I know quite a hand full of people who believe in it, but none has ever seen it happen by him or herself: "Somebody told me that somebody is able to....".
If it is possible, then I strongly believe it is not a skill one can learn, but a random occurence on a very small scale.
On a related topic, that was the way I felt about out-of-body experiences. I'd read plenty about them, but was it all hogwash, I asked myself. After I had it happen the first time, however small or insignificant it might have been, it was a game-changer. I knew it was possible. After that, it almost seemed unnecessary to proceed much further, it wasn't so much what happened, so much as the simple fact that it did happen which seemed important - at least at that point in time, which was many years ago now.I reckon the major hurdle is an absolute knowing that it is possible (not just faith or belief). My issue is that I still have doubts because I've been probably subliminally brainwashed with a materialistic worldview.
Only if parents feel comfortable about teaching their kids the skill in question! Even if they feel they have some skill at PK (say), they may not wish to help their kids to achieve the same - particularly if they feel a freak for being able to do it.If its an actual thing and its learnable then I think Illusion's point about it being taught by parents to children is a fair question. It its limited to those with a rare genetic make up that's another thing.
That's a lot of presumed behaviors to follow down that road. There are likely cultures around today, not to mention the myriad of cultures we've had in the past, that wouldn't be overly suppressive of these abilities.Only if parents feel comfortable about teaching their kids the skill in question! Even if they feel they have some skill at PK (say), they may not wish to help their kids to achieve the same - particularly if they feel a freak for being able to do it.
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That's a lot of presumed behaviors to follow down that road. There are likely cultures around today, not to mention the myriad of cultures we've had in the past, that wouldn't be overly suppressive of these abilities.
Alternatively, perhaps parents would wait and then teach adult children (who'd be in a better position to understand the implications).
I'll admit I struggle with the notion of an ability like telekinesis hiding in plain sight.
Can you give a link? How easy is it to learn aged 67?The basic knowledge of this subject is known through pop culture (carrie for example) and other modalities of entertainment.
Driving a car is dangerous. Hunting for food is dangerous. There's danger and power embedded in all kinds of things parents teach their children.I don't think the whole notion of "parents teaching their kids" seems like a weak swipe, 1. what parents actually have the time to teach their kids in this heavily distracted world? 2. how many parents actually believe in TK enough to teach it. 3. Who's to say they are capable of teaching it 4. Who would want to teach a kid TK, that would be dangerous!! With more power comes more responsibility! I wouldn't teach a kid TK!! 5.TK is shrouded in disbelief, dogma, and skepticism, this isn't after school guitar lessons or chess.....its a fringe topic
OK - but nobody's circle of acquaintances is very large, and you can see how that can bias your decision. You probably accept many propositions without knowing someone who can personally verify them - so your objection really boils down to the fact that you give the idea such a low prior probability.If I really knew Baccarat and I knew that he was sceptical of paranormal occurrences, and he would tell me that he now believes in it, that would give a lot of credibility. Otherwise I would not believe it.
Well why don't you seek the knowledge to harness it ?But I give it a low prior probability because of my experience regarding this topic and related ones and because of what I personally know about life, so to speak. As I said I would never rule it out by a 100%, but as of now I deem it very unlikely to exist beyond a minor scale.
Maybe investing hours upon hours per day in practicing those abilites would yield an astonishing result, I do not know. It definitely would be fascinating. On the other hand, wouldn't the military have used it by now, if it could be trained to a certain, much stronger degree?
Driving a car is dangerous. Hunting for food is dangerous. There's danger and power embedded in all kinds of things parents teach their children.
This says nothing about other teacher/student relationships. TK is shrouded in disbelief, dogma and skepticism because there isn't any proof of it in the mainstream. Again, I am not saying it isn't a real phenomena. I do, however, find it hard to believe that it is a generally "learnable" skill. I haven't heard a compelling argument as to why more folks wouldn't have 'learned' it if it were so. The potential beneficial uses of moving things with the mind are immense.