Trump Consciousness

I guess you may have to define "good" before you can be satisfied. I haven't double fact checked these, but you can check them out if you want:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

It didn't rain on his inauguration
Trump began his presidency by lying about the weather. It rained during Trump's inaugural address. Then, at a celebratory ball later that day, Trump told the crowd that the rain "just never came" until he finished talking and went inside, at which point "it poured." This was the first lie of Trump's presidency. Like his lies that same week about his inauguration crowd, it hinted at what would come next. The President would say things that we could see with our own eyes were not true. And he would often do this brazen lying for no apparent strategic reason.

Trump was once named Michigan's Man of the Year
Trump has never lived in Michigan. Why would he have been named Michigan's Man of the Year years before his presidency? He wouldn't have been. He wasn't. And yet this lie he appeared to have invented in the final week of his 2016 campaign became a staple of his 2020 campaign, repeated at Michigan rally after rally. It's so illustrative because it makes so little sense.

Trump won the election
Trump's long White House campaign against verifiable reality has culminated with his lie that he is the true winner of the 2020 presidential election he clearly, certifiably and fairly lost. To many of us, it's ludicrous nonsense. But to millions of deluded Americans, it's the truth. And it has now gotten people killed. The nation's truth problem, clearly, isn't just a Trump problem. With this last blizzard of deception and the Capitol insurrection it fomented, Trump has shown us, once more, just how detached from reality much of his political base has become -- or always was.

Entire books have also been written on the topic:

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https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Trump-His-Assault-Truth-ebook/dp/B08286PG7V

Then there's stuff like this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-strategist-rove-who-fires-back-idUSKBN2AX089

Karl Rove, a staple of Republican politics for over 20 years, is now in Trump's crosshairs. Trump had this to say about Rove recently:



Rove responded with this:



Who to believe? I'm no fan of Rove's but he's never hidden or shied away from being who he is: GOP all the way through. Those who would take Trump's word as fact here and accuse Rove of being liar would have to declare on what basis they came to this conclusion. I'm certain it would be centered on a conspiratorial notion; namely that Rove is part of the swamp. This basically allows Trump to say, literally, anything and his sycophants accept it... no questions asked.

Hardly a rigorous standard and certainly a very dangerous one in my view.

Thanks. I'll need to have a look when I have free time to dig deeper.

Bart V said:
Silence provided you with a good chunk of lies to start with, since you asked me to not spend to much time at it, i will leave it at that.
To ask this question though? It brings up another one, (also being genuine) what media did you consume over the last four years if you have to ask?

It's mainly based on the whole Jan 6th thing that without a doubt, was based upon Trump leading people on and then discarding them when things got real. That to me just made it crystal clear that the Trump I thought I had sussed out, didn't exist.

Bart V said:
How did you come to the conclusion that there was any doubt that someone could name three DJT lies?
Why did you wait with indulging your curiosity about his lying for all this time?
Is it maybe that you have different criteria for calling something a lie? To me it is simple, if someone makes a statement that is verifiable wrong, it is a lie.
Let us know what you think.

I didn't come to a conclusion that I doubted someone could name 3 Trump lies. I wanted to know 3 verifiable lies because I currently see it as a weak point in my understanding, and I wondered if I could have been fooled, and how that occurred.
 
Should point out that not everyone who Ghillane, Epstein or other sick fucks have managed to get in a photo with or somehow deceived are automatically bad. They used to throw parties and invite anyone who was felt to be of use, very often not even knowing them or even attending their own parties. Also i think a lot of the blackmailing they set up was against people who hadn't really done anything wrong, stupid probably, drunk and having sex with over 18 prostitutes again probably and stupid and very probably still too young at 18-22 but that is nothing compared to the crimes Ghillaine and Epstein are guilty of imo
To highlight the above post. The CNN dude's (unsure who he is at the moment) wife pictured in the middle just seems like a silly socialite to me. Obviously there's that evil cunt Maxwell on the right but it seems there is another evil cunt on the left. Anyone know who she is?
https://nationalfile.com/cnn-presid...otographed-repeatedly-with-ghislaine-maxwell/
 
To highlight the above post. The CNN dude's (unsure who he is at the moment) wife pictured in the middle just seems like a silly socialite to me. Obviously there's that evil cunt Maxwell on the right but it seems there is another evil cunt on the left. Anyone know who she is?
https://nationalfile.com/cnn-presid...otographed-repeatedly-with-ghislaine-maxwell/
Yeah so anyway had seen an interview previously and then looked into it, with someone who had took as the owner of CNN or something like that and thought maybe he was this womans husband. He's not though but have looked at her husband some and seems like the same kind of category that would put Ted Turner in. An honest assessment. Not the nicest of people and would say they have a nasty side to them at times. Not the brightest either but the same would go for anyone with a relatively sizeable nasty side. They probably both do for different reasons, in Ted's case imo because he is kind of grunty where he is at in his relative lifepath evolution, but they both probably stick their fingers in their arse. One in four blokes probably does the same though these days and they are not all bad by any means, though it is an unhealthy practice for men and women both imo. Still keeping note of a nasty and out of order side to both them (Ted Turner and Jeff Zucker), they are nowhere near full on evil, pedos that type of shite imo.
 
As for CNN i think i could say (dont watch it that much especially lately) that putting the fakenews, lies, bias to democrats almost iregardlessly and mainstream agenda (often set by very evil people) coherent, CNN doesnt come across as deceitfully full on evil like the BBC or SkyNews. I did hear about a program CNN did though where their reporter went to some far off cannibal infested place and ate human flesh. This rings obvious alarm bells and makes me wonder if apart from Ted Turner, if there may be other partners, shareholders etc either officially or unofficially that have a say on what happens at CNN. Does anyone have any info on this?
 
or maybe evil people convinced CNN with some bullshit to broadcast a program like that so as to make it seem like CNN is in that category (way beyond fakenews) and diflecting peoples attention from where they should be looking (eg BBC and Skynews ownership as well as high up staff along with a few BBC reporters that have come across imo, like the shite who does Hardtalk program on BBC News24 being satanic ritual abuse cult imo, planet hellbound cunt).
 
or maybe evil people convinced CNN with some bullshit to broadcast a program like that so as to make it seem like CNN is in that category (way beyond fakenews) and diflecting peoples attention from where they should be looking (eg BBC and Skynews ownership as well as high up staff along with a few BBC reporters that have come across imo, like the shite who does Hardtalk program on BBC News24 being satanic ritual abuse cult imo, planet hellbound cunt).
since a new categorisation method seems to have come out of the above posts, just 'fakenews' and on the other hand 'deceitfully evil etc as well as fakenews' or something along those lines, should mention that anywhere in previous posts where have just used the label 'fakenews' or something similar, does not imply that it may not be evil as well, imo. I remember calling NBC fakenews and that i think they definately are but haven't looked into them enough to say any more. May have used just 'fakenews' elsewhere as well before now which again does not imply that they may not be evil as well, imo.
wish nice sunday and lets hope the shite keeps minimising some in this slow ass world
peace
 

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i used to be kind of like a uh almond milk latte drinking liberal in san francisco who no matter what trump said it was always a lie and therefore whatever he said the opposite was true​
like seeing that that was not the case with china because i lived there and experienced life there and kind of got a sense for what the general view towards america was there um i guess it sort of opened my mind to the possibility that like well maybe it's not just china maybe it's certain other assumptions that i've held to be the gospel for my entire life
um you know like just challenging those other assumptions i think you know china kind of opened the door to that for me. being a centrist today is never fashionable right because you're not on team a or team b so you're always going to get criticized by both um but whatever you know whatever if that's the price of like having your own thoughts and that's okay um​
but yeah i mean i do think there's something to be said for the fact that trump is the first president that like i can think of that openly opposed you know the expansionism the uh harm economically that like china under the communist party has inflicted on the us and so i think that there's a lot of people who see that and think like thank god that there's somebody who's finally trying to peel the wool back from the population's eyes about this threat that we've been trying to warn people about ever since we escaped china​
but nobody listens to us because the most important thing to the politicians here is to be able to uphold a trade deal and to do more business and to sell them more coca-cola even if it means that there's people in concentration camps or you know people being unable to practice religion or you know everything that like​
these aren't secrets right these aren't secrets it's just that people don't give sufficient weight to them or pay sufficient attention to them that it actually changes the policy of the us government so yeah i think just to an extent you know his kind of aggressive stance on china not just words right not just words but actually in terms of trade war policy and things like that are a breath of fresh air​
 
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Disclaimer: 2020 was the first and probably the last time I’ll vote, and I voted Trump. Would probably take it back if I could, on principle.

I hope I live to see the retirement of Capitalism Liberalism and Communism.

I hate to admit but I think the Dems are currently closest to the winning future, (yet so embarrassingly far).

I think the winning future will be built on something like: The commoditization of a societies ability to lift it’s weakest/poorest into self-sustaining stability and on, toward prosperity.

Current failures:

Capitalism - Favors the poor sometimes, mostly/highest when they're lucky enough to have, at default, the gumption necessary to secure said favor.

Liberal Democracy - Favors the poor for so long as they promise to stay poor and participate in the ‘poor plan’.


Both seem to have a death grip on the need for there to be “a poor”

Edit: Commoditization doesn’t need imply capitalism. i.e: it’s common knowledge that there’s a special quality to keeping secret an act of service performed.
 
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I think it's getting to the point where even internet employed trolls and hacks are talking about election fraud. Why? Could it be (i think so :)) that certain 3 letter agencies (Doj Fbi maybe :)) were involved in the fraud and are looking to keep their role out of the media by deflecting the issues ?
 
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