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I don't know how it happened, but I finally get the whole picture in the biological robot debate. Happened very early on in the interview at 4:49.
Basically I was trying to understand why the bio-robot people don't care if their original versions of themselves are destroyed after being uploaded / copied.
It's not their view that the brain "produces" consciousness after all. Instead their is simply no basis for consciousness to exist to begin with other than as an illusion due to the map / territory distinction.
It's a spandrel! All we could ever hope for in this view is continuation of our unique and evolving pattern, but there is never anyone there.
If consciousness is fundamental that problem goes away. Reality is not a reconstruction but a construction of consciousness. Our machines produce maps. We, the creators, produce reality.
All right! But don't NDEr's claim we share qualia? And wouldn't any bio-robot person claim we could merge with other brains if we weren't limited by our wetware?
Basically I was trying to understand why the bio-robot people don't care if their original versions of themselves are destroyed after being uploaded / copied.
It's not their view that the brain "produces" consciousness after all. Instead their is simply no basis for consciousness to exist to begin with other than as an illusion due to the map / territory distinction.
It's a spandrel! All we could ever hope for in this view is continuation of our unique and evolving pattern, but there is never anyone there.
If consciousness is fundamental that problem goes away. Reality is not a reconstruction but a construction of consciousness. Our machines produce maps. We, the creators, produce reality.
All right! But don't NDEr's claim we share qualia? And wouldn't any bio-robot person claim we could merge with other brains if we weren't limited by our wetware?